Who here has seen this documentary. I think its disgusting what these folks do in this film. This is nothing but brainwashing @ its finest. At least they have decided to shut down the camp for a few years due to public outrage and vandalism. I myself would have burned the place down to the ground if i could get away with it, along with that cow that is the self proclaimed leader.

I've seen it. Not much to say about it, it only confirmed some of my worst fears concerning religion in America (I think it's safe to say it's pretty much exclusive to America and the less developed countries).

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I have seen it too, it just shows that you can brainwash kids to think whatever you want.

I think its a certain few Christian groups that feel the need to shove Christianity down your throat. You have Christians that respect other people no matter what and then you have the Christians that think if you are not Christian then you are going to hell. I'm sure their are more types than that too.

Well imagine their right, they would be the biggest douches alive to just let us non-believers rot in hell.
I'm not saying they're right, I'm saying they're crazy.

Well, their faith tells them to go out and spread the word.

Yeah, someone always takes it too far.


Hah, true. Did really make me laugh as well.

Now, since I haven't seen it, I cannot officially comment. I can imagine what's going on based on responses. I can also imagine that living in the Bible Belt, it won't really shock me much, but I'll be glad it's shut down.

Anyone have links to a decent article I can read about it? On failing dial up and only have two television channels, so things like youtube and watching a replay special are out.

If kids are going to be indoctrinated like that, as jesus told the pharisees about honoring parents (well, it works both ways) 'it would have been better for you had you never been born'. It would be nice if one were to have their own fate. For those who believe in heaven and hell, there should be a heaven and hell. These people would burn in it. I guess they are living in their own hell anyway. Selfish, chicken ass bastards have to drag their children into it with them.

So, let me ask all the conservatives. What is the difference between leaving our society to live with and care for those children who grow into adults and are intolerant of others not like them and the burden socoiety suffers for this upbringing and, children who grow up on welfare? Where are the compassionate coservative voices of outrage for these children. I hear all about how the government is always in their face, what about bigotry and hatred that is put in the face of children who have no say. If they don't want me sicking the government on them all, they should get in the faces of these irresponsible parents themselves and f**king fix this...f**king hypocrites! Not enough f**king money in it for them? How about if we get the government to give them a tax break if they will stick their nose in this? That would probably get some of them going.

I would like to tell a story.

One sunday afternoon about 4 years ago, I was in a blockbuster store standing in line to rent some dvd's. The line was long and the store was packed. I was in about the middle of the line standing behind a family of 5. This family consisted of a father of about 6'4'' tall and probably about 250lbs in his late 20's early 30's wearing fatigues, the mother was around the same age, short, maybe 5'4'' tall and normal weight, the 3 kids were oldest to youngest, (f) around 13 or so, (m) about 11, and (m) maybe 8 or 9. This father was extremely controlling, intimidating and commanding to his family. His kids were making the best of the situation, fiddeling around and being kids, not really doing anything to bother anyone or hurting anything. Well the daughter takes a dvd off a rack and begins reading it. The father, yells at her, grabs her by the hair and drags her over to his side, as he does this, he smiles at me. I respond to him with, 'why did you have to pull her hair like that'? Well, before I got to finish my sentence, this guy is in my face, snarling at me screaming obscenities and insults at me and threatening me physically. I am 5'8'' tall and hover around 200lbs or so. I'm not big but, I look like I can take care of myself and, I can. This guy is calling me every liberal insult he can think of, spitting in my face while yelling. His main point was that these were 'his' kids, and no liberal fag was going to tell him how to parent his children. I responded with, 'they may be your kids, but you don't own them and they are only entrusted in your care to love and teach respect for all, including them'. He didn't hear much of what I was saying. During this display of impotence on his part, I look over at his wife who is cowering. i tuned him out and said to her, you need to get these children and yourself away from this person if this is what you have to live like. At that point, the husband, totally shocked at the fact I went right around his childish behavour and spoke to his wife, shuts up and tells his wife to put the kids in the car, which of course, she does. As she is leaving I repeated myself to her. The most chilling part of that whole experience was, not one single other person stood with me against this bully and, after it was over, everyone acted as if nothing at all had happened. So, yes Raszcak, what has happened to our country?

I am glad I don't wake up in the morning thinking everyone except those who agree with me are out to get me.

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I've seen the movie as well, I watched it with a friend of mine. We must've paused it every 45 seconds to complain about how ignorant those people were.