I think you just have a complex about kids all being innocent. Do you think that they should do away with Juvenile Justice completely, because after all, the kids are all really only acting that way because of their upbringing and circumstances. At what age do they suddenly become adults and therefore responsible for their own actions in your eyes?

As I said earlier, the solution isn't to excuse people for their actions because the system is a mess and won't fix them as it is now. The answer is to fix the system so that it provides genuine rehabilitation. Clearly this kid needs to be locked up (to protect others as well as a form of punishment) - then you can look at the possibility of fixing him before his release time comes.

I never condemned the juvinile system. I want it to work for this kid and others like him. Yes, the boy needs to be kept away from society, but he also needs to be helped. He maintains that it was the girl's fault for throwing the rock at him.

It was a travesty of justice to just lock him up with no chance of help! I just think that his punishment is way to severe. You don't just lock him up behind bars and throw away the key.

Especially when an adult does the same thing to a woman, yet he gets off with a very light sentence like probation or something like that!! Or maybe only a year in the slammer!!

Why on earth is this child being made a terrible example of, yet grown men who do this get off with hardly any jail time at all?!!! It's just beyond me!!

Something has happened to this boy that turned him into a raging mad sexual predator!! He has some serious problems that need to be dealt with through counciling and therapy. And anyone who tries to stop him from trying to roll with someone, he'll attack them as well.

It is hard to believe that a person as young as 13 could commit such an act so horrifying. All I can say is lucky for him, she wasn't my daughter, he'd be dead by my own hand.

As for being a child, no, considering he knew enough to assault her sexually in more ways than one, and then attempted to beat her to death to keep her from talking, ah, hell no. This is not some type of, he stole gum from the store type of crime, this person brutally assaulted a child 7 years younger than him in the worst unimaginable way, because she threw a rock at him. Perhaps the rock was thrown because he kept making advances at her and wouldn't stop, or perhaps she was just being a 6 year old child who likes to throw rocks, either way, that doesn't justify the result in any way, shape or form.

He would be dead by your hand?

Yeah, and what on earth would THAT prove? You'd take the life of a child for brutalizing another child? That doesn't make any sense! Then you'd be in just as much trouble as he is with the law.

A little boy was groped in a supermarket bathroom. His dad was there at the time and witnessed the whole thing. Enraged that it happened the boy's dad went after the molester and beat him up.
Now HE is in just as much trouble as the man who inappropriately touched his child!!

This boy, for some reason yet to be explained, has serious issues, and because he was thrown in prison at such a young age, no one seems to care or want to try to help him.

But looking at his picture, one wouldn't think that he committed such a diabolical act.

Be in just as much trouble, yes I would. I am sick of the hand slapping, don't do it again, ah poor kid crap. He knew enough of what he was doing to commit the crime, a savage crime at that, obviously he has either had the experience prior due to the knowledge of what he was doing and the attempt to hide it by trying to kill her.
Believe me, my view is not easy to understand, being that there are law enforcement officials in my family and on the other side I have a cousin who is in Pelican Bay for a murder he did commit. When the justice system stops considering the rights of the criminals over the rights of our innocent, then perhaps i'll be more of a 'ah poor kid' type of mom, but right now, NO...I'm tired of all the savage crime going on against humanity, and if what i write and/or believe is savage to you, sorry, but you don't have to and i'm not asking for your approval.

Yeah, but you just can't KILL a person for hurting another.

But if you want to blame anyone, then don't blame him, blame his PARENTS for his being out-of-control and his outrageously promiscuous behavior.

I swear, something happened in that household that they are not telling. Something went down that got this boy started on the road leading up to his vicious attack on that girl.

A kid just doesn't get that furious and ferocious because a rock was thrown at him. Usually, he would probably just throw one back at her. If I were there, I'd try to stop the boy from attacking her.

I just don't understand why his parents didn't try to get help for him long before this attack took place. It would have kept him out of prison and the girl would not have been brutalized.

If I saw this person attacking a young child as he did, regardless of gender and/or whether or not the child was mine, there is no way on earth that I would feel any differently.

Regardless of how I am in my feelings of this matter, in no way do I encourage violence to my kids, however, they know without a doubt that I would die for them. So, if they should ever commit such a crime, then they would and know they will deal with the consequences. So blaming the parents, yeah, ok, but perhaps the parents have done all they can, in fact they spoiled this child rotten, perhaps they were the worse parents imaginable, doesn't matter. He KNEW what he was doing, he raped this child, sodemized her and then tried to beat her to death so she wouldn't talk! That is not the mind set of a child, that is the action of a monster who doesn't need sympathy so that he can roam the streets in 3 years or less and successfully kill someone after he has brutally tortured them, no sympathy for him in my eyes and perhaps blaming the parents, society, whatever needs to come to an end and just admit that some kids are evil shits and don't deserve to walk with the rest of us.

The unfortunate part of this issue is that this child that was traumatized will probably end up a wreck, so, when and if she should decide to kill herself (hopefully with all my heart she doesn't), but then do we try him as an adult for accessory to murder or as a murderer as he was the one who caused it? If she ends up on drugs, do we charge him then with attempted murder due to all the crap that she'd be putting into her body it would be as if she's trying to numb the pain he caused her by trying to kill herself.
If anyone deserves the sympathy and help that you plead for over this monster, it's the little 6 year old girl that was attacked.

You are cruel. I never once said that the girl should get help. As a matter of fact, she and her mom moved to another state so that she won't be reminded of the attack. And she IS receving theropy to help her.

Anyway, I still hope that he can be put in a program and be helped - in prison or otherwise.

you say cruel, I say fed up!

It might seem to you that the boy is wrong for doing this - which he is partly wrong for it, but try to understand that he did not just get this way overnight.

Good behavior and respect for others begins in the home, and from the looks of things, his parents weren't very good with trying to show him some love, guidance and stirring him in the right direction, being that his dad is in and out of jail himself.

I've seen many young kids turn into raging monsters like this kid has, but I also know that their moms just didn't give a damn, because all they were or seemed worried about was where their next crack pipe was coming from!!

Yeah, the report states they moved to California. If I were able to, i'd give her the biggest hug because she is a survivor and I pray everyday for her full recovery. I also praise her compassion for only wanting the 60 years.

Leaving a state of trauma and moving to another only lessens the reminder, it doesnt take the nightmares of the action away, the therapy she and her family are receiving will hopefully with time allow them to move forward.

Only wanting the 60 years? I don't think he'll do that much time though. Something's gotta give.

Say for argument purposes that his parents were the perfect upstanding parents. If his father was in and out of jail then he probably never really got to know his dad, let alone be influenced by such repulsive behaviour. If this person said, she pissed me off, so i did what I needed to do, and it's nothing to do with my parents, then what would you think would be appropriate for him?

No one should be held in prison for so long despite what he/she/it did.

Prison should be part of the process of social rehabilitation, not some sort of revenge.

Well, that's pretty much what happened.

The girl threw the rock at him. He, in turn, becomes so enraged that he chases her, catches her and gives her the beating of her life! But in this case, it's hard to say, since they are both children.

But the boy should know that what he did was unspeakable and horrible.

And speaking of his dad, if he WERE in the boy's life and guided him properly, then I don't think the boy would be where he is right now. There ARE cases like this in which kids' dads are doing time, and they are left to grow up without them around, causing them to go south.

One man who I knew since he was a little boy, HIS dad was no stranger to the poker, and neither is he. I just hope and pray to God that HIS son doesn't end up there when HE becomes a teenager!!

The boy will probably and eventually get some kind of help and rehab while there. The question is when, and how much.

So what you are saying is she deserved it and he was a nice guy until she threw a rock at him?

You think nice guys crack like that? You think people with no anger suddenly snap like that? I think you will find that if it wasn't this girl it would have been someone or something else that would have caused this boy to snap.

What she did was wrong and she should be dealt with accordingly. But to compare the two or say her 'punishment' was justified and his not? Very poor form.

I think the fact that he received punishment is correct, and I don't think that his behaviour represents what someone sane would do after being being hit by a stone.
It may have been the trigger for this event, but provocation does not or should not justify violence of any kind.

However, I think sixty years is to long for a sentence, not only in this particular case but in general.

You're twisting it around. The boy thinks that he was right for attacking her. It never came from me that the boy was right for doing that.

I never once implied that the girl deserved that, nor did I ever say that the boy's actions were justified.

The boy more than likely had stuff pent up in his mind for some time and he just happened to explode that day.