How do you all like the idea of having a bounty placed on your head for saying something that Muslims don't agree with?

Oh good grief...

That's what I said. She and her publisher are so scared, they won't even talk about the content that was removed to appease the Muslims who are after her.

Is the book being published in a Muslim dominated country? If I was trying to make a point and people didn't like it, then I'd probably go make it somewhere else. Not just stop talking about it. If they didn't take the bounty off of her head because she stopped, it just gives more reason to talk about it.

I'm not a big fan of slippery slope arguments, but Islam is probably the fastest growing religion now, its spreading everywhere. How long before something like this happens in your country?

Religion or not, it will be a long time before I believe that anything like this will happen in my country.

They don't have to be acting on behalf of the official recognized government. But I appreciate your optimism.

How long do you think it would be before we catch someone in this country giving aid and support to a terrorist group?

Yes, no one in the US would ever support Bin Laden...

Oh, wait, already happened...

LMAO

Yeah, the U.S. would never support terrorists, oops, wait. I forgot we're responsible for the radicalization of Islam, against the Soviets. I guess this is some of that blowback that Rudy Ghouliani has never heard of.

Yeah, if someone threatened to kill me over something I wrote, I'd hire a couple bodyguards and start putting the offending statement on billboards. I'm just contrary like that.

That wasn't quite what I meant. I'm really tired of these constant anti-muslim threads and posts.

Why?

I wasn't implying that they would be acting on behalf of an official government. [Sorry if I misled.] What I meant was that the first amendment was a founding principal when making this country and that is it an underlying element in almost everything we do. [Are we not practicing our freedom of speech when discussing such a topic?]

I believe that it would be a long time before society will accept such a death threat made publicly within this country and not get involved. Of course not everyone will get involved but people who weren't involved in the original issue would.

Death threats and other problems of that magnitude will have happened in Europe before they happen in the U.S. With the way things are looking, they'll run out of subjects to support their socialist regimes with tax dollars, which requires importing bodies to perform the labor and pay taxes.

If the Muslim population there continues to grow they'll gain more and more power in government. Its not anything that'll happen tomorrow, but the dynamics are there for it to take place in the future.

I hope that Islam will go through the same time of reformation that Christianity did long ago - just get to get over the worst of their problems. I don't care if they consider me and infidel that will go to hell, any more than I care if Christians today think I'll go to hell if I don't get saved. They just need to learn not to want to kill people so much. Christians learned. I'm sure Muslims can too. I hope so.

I would have to agree. Even if it doesn't happen in Europe, I would have said that it would happen somewhere in that region first due to its geographic location.

Hopefully though, more than just Muslims would be the "imported bodies" to perform the labor and pay taxes.

True but when you refer to the "time of reformation" that Christianity went through, what are you referring to? I'm a little rusty on my world history so when you say that, I think of the crusades and everything. Just wanted to double check.

The great 16th-century religious revolution, I would presume.

look up Martin Luther. Not King ;P

What sucks is that some beliefs other then ours, do not grant others the right their own beliefs. And those beliefs may expand faster due to reproduction and force.
We can only hold on to our own way of dealing with other beliefs if we are lucky and they change by themselves, our population expand more, or we go out and succeed in convincing them.

Expanding by increasing our population is against our nature.(We currently do not do much to increase population growth.) It is IMO also blatantly immoral to set future generations up for hardships through overpopulation. (And who denies that, does not understand the exponential function.) So the only thing left to do is to try convince them of some of our beliefs. Or hope that circumstance is not against us.
West Europe does have immigration that fills the lower-education jobs. These days they mostly originate from Poland and other East-Europe countries. (Which is a lot easier since the EU) For the Netherlands, at least, in the past many of these immigrants came from Turkey, Marocco, and there are some cultural problems. So indeed, those might also cause problems with religious intolerance.
Although no doubt these immigrants help the economy, i doubt they provide that much money through tax, as our tax is very progressive. Also the US has its immigrant workers as well for its corporatist regime.
I just dont get where you are coming from. Most of the population approves of government acceptably or better.

Thanks for the advice. I'm in school right now but I'll look it up when I get a chance.

@yaaarrrgg: There is a difference that the Islam is not a race. So it strictly speaking not racist. It is discrimination, though, and I guess we should acknowledge Muslims that do respect other cultures. That does not mean we can ignore those that do not.
That said, although Christianity has a more tolerant attitude outward, there is a good chance this is not so inward, and the catholic church still tries to increase fertility in its believers.