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Old 12-04-2007   #21 (permalink)
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At least the catholic church recognises scientific evidence like evolution.

Imho some of the North American protestants with their mega churches, Jesus Camps and creationism stuff are far more worse.

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At least the catholic church recognises scientific evidence like evolution.

Imho some of the North American protestants with their mega churches, Jesus Camps and creationism stuff are far more worse.

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Are you trying the moral equivelency thing again? Name the last instance this century where a Christian denomination poured out of church and had a riot calling for the death of someone. Or strapped a bomb belt on a kid and sent them to blow up people from another denomination, or rioted violently over being offended by a cartoon or other piece of artwork.

Mmmmkay. Didn't think so.
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What about that church wanting everyone in the army dead because they think they'd be gay?

Or others killing gays because they say they're sinner?

Poisoning themselves and their children because they think they have to do that to be accepted by Jesus at his second coming?

Neonazis around the world?
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What about that church wanting everyone in the army dead because they think they'd be gay?

Or others killing gays because they say they're sinner?

Poisoning themselves and their children because they think they have to do that to be accepted by Jesus at his second coming?

Neonazis around the world?
1. Huh? What church? Anyway, I don't care if someone wants me dead, its when they act on it that I have problems.

2. What are you talking about?

3. If someone wants to kill themselves, I really don't care. If Muslims began just killing themselves instead of innocent people, I'd be ok with that.
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1. That's the "God Hates Fags" family from Kansas. The Phelps doth protest too much.

2. There was the crazy drowning Mom in Texas? She was extremely religious.

3. What's that have to do with neo-nazis?
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We had a discussion on jd about this chruch a couple of months ago, the guys spoiling funerals etc.

So you never heard about someone killing a gay person only because of being gay? Which people always state being gay would be a sin? A hint: It's not Pepsi Co.

What about Aryan Nations? Ku Klux Klan?

US dominionists?

South African terror groups?

Christian Identity movement?
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3. What's that have to do with neo-nazis?
Neonazis think, just like Hitler, that Jesus and/or god gave them the order to kill all jews and enslave non-arian races.

The Nazis back then even called WW2 Germany the Nation of God and many claimed Hitler being the reincarnation of Christ.
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Name the last instance this century where a Christian denomination poured out of church and had a riot calling for the death of someone.
Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia AFAIK the KKK was widespread and religious. Must have happened.
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Does the fact you have to reach so far tell you guys anything?
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Does the fact you have to reach so far tell you guys anything?
how exactly are they reaching far?
Theres plenty of american fundamentalists who have called for the murder of abortion doctors "for the greater good",

The middle east is just culturally behind much of the world (debate that statement all you want, but you wont convince me its just 'different')
the fact that their muslim is a side point, everything they justify with the koran can just as easily be justified by the bible, if the middle east was predominantly christian it wouldnt change their local culture very much. religions are made up by people and used to whatever ends they want.
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how exactly are they reaching far?
Theres plenty of american fundamentalists who have called for the murder of abortion doctors "for the greater good",
Not only are they having to reach, but they aren't pulling much back when they do. Look at the international and national headlines over the last ten years. Of all the terrorist attacks around the world, what percentage of them were carried out by Christians?

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The middle east is just culturally behind much of the world (debate that statement all you want, but you wont convince me its just 'different')
My only gripe with that statement is that it is a gross understatement.

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the fact that their muslim is a side point, everything they justify with the koran can just as easily be justified by the bible, if the middle east was predominantly christian it wouldnt change their local culture very much. religions are made up by people and used to whatever ends they want.
The reality is, is that Christians (with a minute amount of relatively irrelevent exceptions) stopped all the bloodthirsty behavior centuries ago. Muslims haven't reformed yet.
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BTW, just a little note on Eric Rudolph - this is something he wrote:

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"Many good people continue to send me money and books," Rudolph writes in an undated letter. "Most of them have, of course, an agenda; mostly born-again Christians looking to save my soul. I suppose the assumption is made that because I'm in here I must be a 'sinner' in need of salvation, and they would be glad to sell me a ticket to heaven, hawking this salvation like peanuts at a ballgame. I do appreciate their charity, but I could really do without the condescension. They have been so nice I would hate to break it to them that I really prefer Nietzsche to the Bible."
That just doesn't look like something a born again evangelical type everyday Christian would say.
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Look at the international and national headlines over the last ten years. Of all the terrorist attacks around the world, what percentage of them were carried out by Christians?
Do you really mean international and national? In the UK, the international and national headlines that I get to see is really western christian news.
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The reality is, is that Christians (with a minute amount of relatively irrelevent exceptions) stopped all the bloodthirsty behavior centuries ago. Muslims haven't reformed yet.
Well, you should consider reading another newspaper then. I can't remember Muslims causing trouble in Ireland or South Africa.

Same goes for neonazis and of course the Nazis. But if you want to call the guy with the tiny moustache irrelevant, go on.
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Well, you should consider reading another newspaper then. I can't remember Muslims causing trouble in Ireland or South Africa.

Same goes for neonazis and of course the Nazis. But if you want to call the guy with the tiny moustache irrelevant, go on.
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Ireland was a regional thing. The parties involved behaved miserably, but they kept it between themselves.

Muslims have killed innocent people this week in the name of their religion. I doubt you can say that about any of the other examples you mentioned. Skinheads. LOL.
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Are you trying the moral equivelency thing again? Name the last instance this century where a Christian denomination poured out of church and had a riot calling for the death of someone. Or strapped a bomb belt on a kid and sent them to blow up people from another denomination, or rioted violently over being offended by a cartoon or other piece of artwork.

Mmmmkay. Didn't think so.
Its very inefficient to strap a few bombs to a malnourished kid. You can strap upto 60,000 pounds of bombs to a B-52 and go do the same thing right.

By the way does anyone remember what happened to that TV show "Book of Daniel",I wonder why it got cancelled?
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Are you trying the moral equivelency thing again? Name the last instance this century where a Christian denomination poured out of church and had a riot calling for the death of someone. Or strapped a bomb belt on a kid and sent them to blow up people from another denomination, or rioted violently over being offended by a cartoon or other piece of artwork.

Mmmmkay. Didn't think so.
Does the Holocaust ring any bells? If I remember correctly that was last century.

Besides Christians bomb abortion clinics and stuff. They're not as bad as Muslims today, I'll give you that, but historically speaking there's nothing Muslims are doing today that Christians haven't done in the past.

The only religion that can truly claim moral superiority like you're trying to do is Buddhism, and even Buddhism has a couple incidences.
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Does the Holocaust ring any bells? If I remember correctly that was last century.

Besides Christians bomb abortion clinics and stuff. They're not as bad as Muslims today, I'll give you that, but historically speaking there's nothing Muslims are doing today that Christians haven't done in the past.

The only religion that can truly claim moral superiority like you're trying to do is Buddhism, and even Buddhism has a couple incidences.
Nazis were not a Christian denomination. Any religous ideals they had were of the norse pagan variety anyway.

How many abortion clinics were bombed last month?

I'm not trying to claim moral superiority for any religion. I'm saying Islam has big problems within its ranks today, and they aren't comparable to those of any other religion.
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Sometimes I wonder just who do Muslim people think they are to dictate their views and religious beliefs onto everyone else - they are becoming booring!
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