Your rights in a muslim country. - Page 2

compiledkernel · 06-29-2007

Interesting, so by statement in the link, if I live in a Predominantly muslim country and I decide to toss the Q'uran onto a fire for some kindling, Im probably not going to get looked on with favorable eyes.

Restriction of Freedoms, the first thing behind any revolution.

matthew · 06-29-2007

Jasper84 · 06-29-2007

How stupid of me to miss that it was sarcasm

I think that might very well be the common concept about how governments should be, and even how "moderate Islam" there sees it. (Not sure how moderate Islam sees it in Europe though) They would keep it an open secret as much as possible, though.

While i can see how this can lead to tensions, i do think it is a huge threat at this point. Certainly not worth nuking countries like Iran over. Only the radical side is potentially dangerous, so we must try get them "moderate". Waging war with them is not the way.
We can only hope that their society will change to allow for them to appreciate freedoms. They probably see that as Islam becoming weak or something like that, though. (Then again, i do find how people believe Christianity a bit mushy)

compiledkernel · 06-29-2007

Hmmmmm.......wonder what would happen if I took a copy of the KJV and ran onto the Liberty Campus with it burning in one hand......

matthew · 06-29-2007

Rasczak · 06-29-2007

81% of Detroit Muslims want Sharia law

Those are the so-called "moderate Muslims."

Rasczak · 06-29-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by compiledkernel

Hmmmmm.......wonder what would happen if I took a copy of the KJV and ran onto the Liberty Campus with it burning in one hand......

There wouldn't be violence. Now draw a cartoon of Mohammed and see what happens.

Jasper84 · 06-29-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

Many muslims can't read arabic and rely on english translations which can result in some translational problems. Or, they get their knowledge from the local sheikh at the mosque who can give any particular explanation or interpretation. I believe most think that if it is part of their faith, the Sharia then it must be good so lets have it without even understanding what is contained it in.

Same can be said about Christians and their translation. Maybe a good percentage just do not know what Sharia means. Also, another post said it was not clear what wording was used in the questions. I wonder whether they had a questionare with questions to check consistency too..
Regardless, i do not trust religions that feel that they need to spread. Especially one that wants it so hard as Islam does.

Eliyahu · 07-02-2007

Man, this thread lost comprehensibility early on.
Almost all religions have held followers of other religions as lower people, so what?

Eli

OrangeCrate · 07-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandx

What are you perceptions of this article?

I guess you can dance around discussing the fine details, but frankly, I fail to see any rights that are inherently held by any non-Muslims in an Islamic state. It's their way, or the highway. Anyone have a map?

Here's a thought...

Quote:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I'm happy with what I have.

nbound · 07-02-2007

Hehe, Australia doesnt even have a Bill of Rights and we've still kept just as many as any other Western Nation

The only explicit right in our constitution is freedom of religion. Though theres a few other implicit ones that have been ruled upon.

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compiledkernel Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 145	Re: Your rights in a muslim country. Interesting, so by statement in the link, if I live in a Predominantly muslim country and I decide to toss the Q'uran onto a fire for some kindling, Im probably not going to get looked on with favorable eyes. Restriction of Freedoms, the first thing behind any revolution.
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Jasper84 under construction Join Date: May 2007 Location: Utrecht, the Netherlands Posts: 593	Re: Your rights in a muslim country. How stupid of me to miss that it was sarcasm I think that might very well be the common concept about how governments should be, and even how "moderate Islam" there sees it. (Not sure how moderate Islam sees it in Europe though) They would keep it an open secret as much as possible, though. While i can see how this can lead to tensions, i do think it is a huge threat at this point. Certainly not worth nuking countries like Iran over. Only the radical side is potentially dangerous, so we must try get them "moderate". Waging war with them is not the way. We can only hope that their society will change to allow for them to appreciate freedoms. They probably see that as Islam becoming weak or something like that, though. (Then again, i do find how people believe Christianity a bit mushy)

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compiledkernel Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 145	Re: Your rights in a muslim country. Hmmmmm.......wonder what would happen if I took a copy of the KJV and ran onto the Liberty Campus with it burning in one hand......
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Rasczak Stirrer Of Shit Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oahu Posts: 3,520	Re: Your rights in a muslim country. 81% of Detroit Muslims want Sharia law Those are the so-called "moderate Muslims."
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nbound Advanced Sentient Primate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW, Australia, Earth, Sol Star System Posts: 120	Re: Your rights in a muslim country. Hehe, Australia doesnt even have a Bill of Rights and we've still kept just as many as any other Western Nation The only explicit right in our constitution is freedom of religion. Though theres a few other implicit ones that have been ruled upon.