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Old 07-13-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Pagans, Wiccans, Heathens, and Witches.

How many are out there.

I'll start I'm one.
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Old 07-13-2007   #2 (permalink)
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You are a what? A witch? Can you perform magic?

Seriously though, I would like to ask exactly what those religions are about. Is it the literal belief in things like magic, or is it just the use of those symbols to understand a greater meaning (like in Hinduism and Buddhism)?
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Old 07-13-2007   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Pagans, Wiccans, Heathens, and Witches.

We observe the tree faith.

But we are different.

It is _not evil.

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We observe the tree faith.

But we are different.

It is _not evil.

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Sounds a bit ambiguous. What's the tree faith? Who are you different from, and in what way?
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Pagan is Viking (IIRC), I know a lot of poeple into the pagan lifestyle.
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Old 07-14-2007   #6 (permalink)
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I myself don't have any kind of faith, but my youngest sister is pagan, as in Asatru. She wears a Thor's Hammer pendant and worships the Goddess Frigg.
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Default Re: Pagans, Wiccans, Heathens, and Witches.

Cectic - Wrong Wager
, not why i think people believe(or maybe "believe") in that stuff though. I think many of them are just going through a phase or want to feel special somehow, perhaps want to belong to some group. That being the reason does not necessarily mean they are lying when they say they believe, of course.
I would not be suprised if that was valid for religion in general.
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How many are out there.

I'll start I'm one.
Millions......and they all stick together!!
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Millions......and they all stick together!!
pretty much... plus me... I'm Wiccan... hence the signature...
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Old 07-17-2007   #10 (permalink)
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Sounds a bit ambiguous. What's the tree faith? Who are you different from, and in what way?
My apologies; I was replying as if speaking to my brother when he saw some wicca books on our bookshelf. He freaked and said something like, "You're tree hugging devil worshipers!". Some schpeil about going to hell followed.

I'm different than my brother that calls himself an "evangelical christian".
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Old 08-28-2007   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: Pagans, Wiccans, Heathens, and Witches.

I am also a wiccan. And yes some of us do feel special, like they were meant to do something. I'm one of them. I am actually kind of fearful of my mission, it really scares me, but I just have a feeling that it is the right thing to do. Nevermind my signiture, I did that because its fun, but somethimes it seems like I'm two people.
Well, it seems that foreboding has fallen over the calm world that I call home. ZS forums and I are now best buds. (I think that zombies have less cred than nukes as a doomsday, but slightly more than aliens...)
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Default Re: Pagans, Wiccans, Heathens, and Witches.

I'd call myself an agnostic wiccan/pagan I'm not entirely sure that theres really a goddes/god of some sort, but am much more inclined to believe in the wiccan tenents than those of any other religion I"ve studied.
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I've been called a heathen.
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I'm somewhere between pagan and buddhist, so far as I can tell.
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I am also a wiccan. And yes some of us do feel special, like they were meant to do something. I'm one of them. I am actually kind of fearful of my mission, it really scares me, but I just have a feeling that it is the right thing to do. Nevermind my signiture, I did that because its fun, but somethimes it seems like I'm two people.
Outside of any so called "religion" there are roughly two kinds of people that walk this Earth: There are those that look up at The Sky and down at The Earth and "feel" our predicament as we spin through space...........................and there are those that do not.

Hey! I got so carried away with my post I forgot to say: It's a beautiful Cosmos, and it's open 24/7. Best wishes!!

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I'd call myself an agnostic wiccan/pagan I'm not entirely sure that theres really a goddes/god of some sort, but am much more inclined to believe in the wiccan tenents than those of any other religion I"ve studied.
I can only repeat my previous post and wish you well. All the best!
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You are a what? A witch? Can you perform magic?

Seriously though, I would like to ask exactly what those religions are about. Is it the literal belief in things like magic, or is it just the use of those symbols to understand a greater meaning (like in Hinduism and Buddhism)?
Could you please explain what you mean by the term "witch" and then the term "magic." Many thanks!
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Old 08-30-2007   #18 (permalink)
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Have you ever tried the leprechaun test? It's easy.

Choose some supernatural deity, some entity that is the object of worship then see if you can distinguish it from a leprechaun. Try an angel for example...

It comes and intervenes in the affairs of people, like a leprechaun. It can do tricks/miracles/magic like a leprechaun. There's no direct evidence but anecdotal accounts - like a leprechaun. There are some written texts which are used as sources of verification, much like leprechauns. The question becomes, why support one set of ideas when the others are irrationally thrown out?

It's fun inventing stories of supernatural powers and magic and all that stuff and it might be fun to pretend to believe in it, but I doubt that any of them would rely on magic to fly an aeroplane, power a car, operate a lift, boil a kettle, etc.

In the fanciful world of make-belief it's all good fun but in the real world where evidence matters, splitting magical hairs to create a classification of beliefs in the supernatural is a bit like stamp collecting.
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Have you ever tried the leprechaun test? It's easy.

Choose some supernatural deity, some entity that is the object of worship then see if you can distinguish it from a leprechaun. Try an angel for example...

It comes and intervenes in the affairs of people, like a leprechaun. It can do tricks/miracles/magic like a leprechaun. There's no direct evidence but anecdotal accounts - like a leprechaun. There are some written texts which are used as sources of verification, much like leprechauns. The question becomes, why support one set of ideas when the others are irrationally thrown out?

It's fun inventing stories of supernatural powers and magic and all that stuff and it might be fun to pretend to believe in it, but I doubt that any of them would rely on magic to fly an aeroplane, power a car, operate a lift, boil a kettle, etc.

In the fanciful world of make-belief it's all good fun but in the real world where evidence matters, splitting magical hairs to create a classification of beliefs in the supernatural is a bit like stamp collecting.
I'm not sure to which thread you are replying, or whether it is just a general dismissal of anything other than basic physics?

If I might ask: Which of the two kinds of people are you?
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If I might ask: Which of the two kinds of people are you?
How come there are only two kinds? Surely anyone can invent this stuff? And any plausible set of ethics will do. We should have a wide range of irrational choices, after all where are the constraints?
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