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| Humanitarian Join Date: May 2007
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| If Adam and Eve were the first people on earth, and they had two boys Cain and Abel. For one wouldn't the rest of society be a mainfestation of incest and how did Cain and Abel marry if Adam and Eve were the first people on Earth? ![]() |
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| Sith Lord on Steroids. Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada
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| genesis 5:4( a chapter recap of the life of adam) - And the days of Adam after his fathering Seth came to be eight hundred years. Meanwhile he became father to sons and daughters. genesis 4: 17- (vrs 16 is when he went to nod) Afterward Cain had intercourse with his wife. Cain was already married to a daughter of adam and eve, she went with him to NOD. The hebrew NOD simply means land of fugitives. Last edited by metaphor- : 06-29-2007 at 10:04 AM. |
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| Sith Lord on Steroids. Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada
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| Circumstances were different in earlier times. Adam and Eve were created perfect, and the instruction for them ‘to multiply and fill the earth’ would necessarily require that their offspring marry one another and reproduce. (Gen. 1:28) But as perfect humans, their children would have been perfect as were their parents. Adam lived several hundred years remember... Even though Adam and Eve sinned and became imperfect, Cain and his brothers and sisters were still so near to physical perfection that the children they produced did not suffer the same adverse effects as do children born of such unions today.They lived long too.Even some 2,000 years afterward, God’s faithful servant Abraham married his half-sister Sarah, and God did not disapprove. (Gen. 20:12) It was yet another 450 years or so before God saw fit to provide his nation of Israel a body of laws that forbade incest on penalty of death. (Lev. 18:8-17) By that time imperfection had apparently developed to such an extent that no longer was it safe for close relatives to marry. It is interesting to note that in the bible the average live span of humans started high and steadily declined to a point where man lives 70, 80, or more years with special mightiness. |
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| Humanitarian Join Date: May 2007
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So basically we are a manifestation of incest according to the bible.![]() | |
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| Needs a new custom title Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Onterrible, Canada
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| The reason that there's a biological problem with incest is that it is more likely for two people who are related to both be carrying a damaging recessive trait. However, in your other thread, you say that you do not believe in evolution. If there is no such thing as genetic mutations (which is all that evolution is, really), then how can people now be so diverse if we all have the same genetic background? Wouldn't Adam and Eve risk passing on recessive traits just as much as anyone else if our genetic material is the same? |
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| Sith Lord on Steroids. Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada
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| incest? yep.Many scientists acknowledge that the human race has a common ancestor, and that we all have similar characteristics. one interesting article. there are alot more im just not in the mood to type. ScienceDaily: 'Most Recent Common Ancestor' Of All Living Humans Surprisingly Recent |
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| Sith Lord on Steroids. Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canada
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-- edit notice i said IMPERFECT back a few posts? Degeneration. As something gets further and further from an initial perfect state, it gets worse. I could go with the copy of a copy example, or how microsoft gets crappier with each generation..but man, i need breakfast!!! i will reply later.. Last edited by metaphor- : 06-29-2007 at 11:18 AM. | |
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| Eligible for a custom title Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto
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| You are looking at a biblical story way too literally. I would say that this story, like most of the Bible (or at least Genesis) is a a collection of metaphorical stories and legends that do not correspond with real events but have imagery and symbolism that have value for mankind. Adam and Eve, the naked, perfect and innocent man and woman from that are our ancestors, are a beautiful and emotionally charged story... I'd leave it at that. However, if you want to believe that the story has some historical basis, you must think about it through the lens of evolution, and interpret it as follows: Adam and Eve represent the species that has not yet reached self awareness. They are happy in their lack of knowledge, and the world is perfect (or at least, in balance). After 'eating from the tree of knowledge' the humans become aware of their nudity, leave the garden of Eden (in reality, our ancestors have left the jungles of the Congo for the harsh savanna). Of course, when the story is seen like this, the incest problem is gone; we are talking about the evolution of an entire species, not just two people. They could breed with other apes, as well as other early humans. |
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