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Old 05-31-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Are there questions that we just can never answer?

There are things that have been debated on, but are still not settled with answers. Among those things are the meaning of life, God's existence, what is truly moral, and all those things.

I just want to know your views on this.

Are there just things that we just can never answer?
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Are there just things that we just can never answer?
In my point of view, nothing is really absolutely answered, because we always assume things. (like axioms) Some things are worse in un-answerredness because we cannot even find assumptions that we can find "reasonable" (what ever that means for assumptions of this kind) from which we can argue the answer. I think that often, the questions themselves are not clear too.
I have a view of what is moral, which i wrote about in the "What are your axioms?" thread, but i am not sure if that is what i believe. http://socialdiscussion.com/religion...html#post63407
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Sure. Example...

Why does swiss cheese have holes, when it's limburger that need the ventilation?
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will the light turn off if you close the fridge?
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There are things that have been debated on, but are still not settled with answers. Among those things are the meaning of life, God's existence, what is truly moral, and all those things.

I just want to know your views on this.

Are there just things that we just can never answer?
These questions have been answered in many ways ... it's just that no one likes any one else's answers My answers:

1. meaning of life: nothing in particular ... it's whatever you want it to be. One makes one's own life meaningful.

2. god's existence: nope

3. morality IMO is a largely a combination of sociobiology and contractarianism.
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There are plenty of mathematical problems which lack any sort of proof.
It is possible that we may never be able to solve a NP-complete problem in a manner other than brute forcing.
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These questions have been answered in many ways ... it's just that no one likes any one else's answers My answers:

1. meaning of life: nothing in particular ... it's whatever you want it to be. One makes one's own life meaningful.

2. god's existence: nope

3. morality IMO is a largely a combination of sociobiology and contractarianism.
But is this really the absolute truth or just yours?
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Just ask someone to discuss the movie Déjà Vu and if the events that occurred are possible or not

A very eventful and passionate several days right there
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Are there just things that we just can never answer?
There are things that can never be answered with a degree of absolute certainty.
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will the light turn off if you close the fridge?
Not good example.Put somebody in the fridge and he will answer you.
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agreeing, bad example
Well, it seems that foreboding has fallen over the calm world that I call home. ZS forums and I are now best buds. (I think that zombies have less cred than nukes as a doomsday, but slightly more than aliens...)
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This question is one we can never answer.
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I'm not sure we can answer your question.
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But is this really the absolute truth or just yours?
Well, just my opinions... IMO these particular questions are largely answered.

But I suppose the answer to the OP is 'yes.' Historical questions and questions about the future are sometimes impossible sort out (since it could require time-travel). It's probably physically impossible to answer some valid questions.

Edit: I would add though that questions that cannot be answered should be examined closely. They might not be valid questions if there's no methodolgy (even in theory) that would confirm or refute any particular answer. These questions are like asking "How many Zorks are in a Blorg?"

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i can answer, yes.

although i can't provide an example.
there is nothing so useless as being effcient at that which should not be done at all.
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There is a lot of questions we never will be able to solve. There is some mathematical proves that proves we can't prove a certain thing is true.
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Ofcourse there are. This is just one example (a real exaple in comparison to all the other :P )

Does all people experience the same color or not? (not considering color blind persons)

Think about it, what is it that characterize the experice of a particular color? Nothing really except the "cultural" relations we have come to accosiate them with. And one can construct different color specras and see those too would work as a experienced color sectra. So it is quite easy to see that we cannot answer this question.

It is atleast a unanswerable question with todays technology. One might be able to construct a device which can interpret the brainfunctions that we could definitely determine the answer to this question. But somehow I doubt it (however might be possible).
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These sorts of things always puzzle me to death

Did Mr. Jaggers delete all his posts? Why? I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say.

Perhaps we will never know the answer ...
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Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem (roughly) states that in every logical system, there are truths that cannot be proven. Most people don't extend this to philosophy, but if you want to be entirely formal - yes, there are questions that we ("we" being the entire universe) will never be able to prove, or know.

I would say that Gödel theorems apply to the questions you asked as well. For example, consider the question "What is the meaning of life?" Most of us would say we haven't got a clue. The Christians might say, "to get into heaven" or "to worship God" (introducing an element beyond our current logical system). But then the question can be asked "what is the meaning of God's life?" or "Suppose we reach the ideal state, in heaven, what is the meaning then?" and there will never be an end to the question. It's the same with God (or metaphysics in general). Suppose you discover a valid theory of metaphysics -- what of meta-metaphysics? And then, what about meta-meta-metaphysics?

As for the question of morality, there we might have some success. It might be possible to discover what kind of behavior truly results in optimal happiness and advancement for the human society, and model our ethics on it (really, that's what most philosophers attempt to do).
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