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| Just getting started Join Date: May 2007
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| There are things that have been debated on, but are still not settled with answers. Among those things are the meaning of life, God's existence, what is truly moral, and all those things. I just want to know your views on this. Are there just things that we just can never answer? |
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I have a view of what is moral, which i wrote about in the "What are your axioms?" thread, but i am not sure if that is what i believe. http://socialdiscussion.com/religion...html#post63407 | |
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| Eligible for a custom title Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indiana, USA
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My answers: 1. meaning of life: nothing in particular ... it's whatever you want it to be. One makes one's own life meaningful. 2. god's existence: nope ![]() 3. morality IMO is a largely a combination of sociobiology and contractarianism. | |
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| ∀dministrator Join Date: May 2007
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| There are plenty of mathematical problems which lack any sort of proof. It is possible that we may never be able to solve a NP-complete problem in a manner other than brute forcing. |
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There can be but little liberty on earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven.- Robert Green Ingersoll
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| the wicked one | Quote:
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| That's life... Join Date: May 2007 Location: straya!
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| Just ask someone to discuss the movie Déjà Vu and if the events that occurred are possible or not A very eventful and passionate several days right there ![]() |
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- I don't like to annoy people on purpose....much | |
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| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | |
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| Doom-sayer, new to the faith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA
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| agreeing, bad example |
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Well, it seems that foreboding has fallen over the calm world that I call home. ZS forums and I are now best buds. (I think that zombies have less cred than nukes as a doomsday, but slightly more than aliens...)
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| Eligible for a custom title Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indiana, USA
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| Well, just my opinions... IMO these particular questions are largely answered.But I suppose the answer to the OP is 'yes.' Historical questions and questions about the future are sometimes impossible sort out (since it could require time-travel). It's probably physically impossible to answer some valid questions. Edit: I would add though that questions that cannot be answered should be examined closely. They might not be valid questions if there's no methodolgy (even in theory) that would confirm or refute any particular answer. These questions are like asking "How many Zorks are in a Blorg?" Last edited by yaaarrrgg : 06-01-2007 at 09:49 AM. |
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| Commentator Join Date: Jun 2007
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| Ofcourse there are. This is just one example (a real exaple in comparison to all the other :P ) Does all people experience the same color or not? (not considering color blind persons) Think about it, what is it that characterize the experice of a particular color? Nothing really except the "cultural" relations we have come to accosiate them with. And one can construct different color specras and see those too would work as a experienced color sectra. So it is quite easy to see that we cannot answer this question. It is atleast a unanswerable question with todays technology. One might be able to construct a device which can interpret the brainfunctions that we could definitely determine the answer to this question. But somehow I doubt it (however might be possible). |
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| Eligible for a custom title Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto
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| Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem (roughly) states that in every logical system, there are truths that cannot be proven. Most people don't extend this to philosophy, but if you want to be entirely formal - yes, there are questions that we ("we" being the entire universe) will never be able to prove, or know. I would say that Gödel theorems apply to the questions you asked as well. For example, consider the question "What is the meaning of life?" Most of us would say we haven't got a clue. The Christians might say, "to get into heaven" or "to worship God" (introducing an element beyond our current logical system). But then the question can be asked "what is the meaning of God's life?" or "Suppose we reach the ideal state, in heaven, what is the meaning then?" and there will never be an end to the question. It's the same with God (or metaphysics in general). Suppose you discover a valid theory of metaphysics -- what of meta-metaphysics? And then, what about meta-meta-metaphysics? As for the question of morality, there we might have some success. It might be possible to discover what kind of behavior truly results in optimal happiness and advancement for the human society, and model our ethics on it (really, that's what most philosophers attempt to do). |
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