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Old 05-13-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Do you believe in Re-incarnation?

I certainly do, I had a very scary experience as a child, being able to recall my last death, which was checked in local historical archives and found to be true. I even got the date roughly correct.

Traditionally, it is thought that if you are re-incarnated, you should not have any memory of previous lives, But I do have a couple of very unexplained memories that seem out of time with anything that I grew up with.

Current philosophy around this seems to indicate that you can also only be re-incarnated a maximum of Twelve times, before your soul is sent on to other tasks - usually to be a spirit guardian of some kind.

The indicator for being on your last Incarnation is being born under the sign of Pisces as western astrology would have it, which I am. I seem to have abilities to sense things that aren't quite normal, and I am empathic, very sensitive to others emotions, and able to know what someone is feeling deep down within a few minutes.
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Any proof or evidence other than the highly circumstantial "omg i knew my last death" thing? You could easily have just made up out of whole cloth, or if it did in fact actually happen as you claim, you could have read about the death in the past and just not remembered it.

Also, astrology is a load of bullshit.
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I have a slight feeling towards it just because i have certian things that i am weary of but have no reason for being weary for example i was in a thrift store just for s**ts and giggles and i picked up a Ouija board and dropped it instantly having a very painful flash of evil. At that point in my life i had never held or even touched one. So if that is because i had a bad experience with one in a past life so be it but i have had other experiences similar to that one
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I'm a skeptic of reincarnation just as I'm a skeptic of an afterlife and an almost complete disbeliever in any chance of a higher power.

The "current philosophy" bullshit added in, however, does really make me think you're extra gullible. Even if reincarnation existed, and you're not supposed to remember previous lives except maybe a few short memories, then how the hell are you supposed to know that you can only be reincarnated 12 times? It seems more efficient to just reuse the souls over and over. Or how about 13 times? Or 200 times? Or just 3 or 4 times?

What else would the soul do after its 12th run? Play poker in the soul lounge? Mess around with the Ouija boards? Inspire writers for The Inquirer and horoscope columns? Perform "miracles" to screw with our heads?
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I don't believe in the statement that you are only reincarnated so many times as much as your reincarnated to experience all the different things in life ,whither it be as a bug or any other type of life form
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I don't believe in the statement that you are only reincarnated so many times as much as your reincarnated to experience all the different things in life ,whither it be as a bug or any other type of life form
And do you have any reason for this belief, or are you just blowing mystical smoke out your ears?
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It comes from the religion that i feel fits me (Buddhism), now thats what enlightenment or Nirvana means to me.
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It comes from the religion that i feel fits me (Buddhism), now thats what enlightenment or Nirvana means to me.
That's cool and all. At least I find you to be a step above some other religions.

However, reincarnation is one major downside to that such idea.

Btw, what specific kind of Buddhism? I'm kind of interested, as I find some of the thoughts a little amusing and interesting, though I must admit I'm always more into the philosophy of than the mystical or spiritual side of any religion.
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Check out Soyouwanna article here
It doesn't get into the big beefy part of the religion but its gets the basics down were most people can understand it. Ill look for a more Philosophical article that has to deal with Buddhism
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I spoke too soon after about 2 seconds of searching i found a nice website here that helps get the finer points across
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What do you beleive happens to you in the after life?
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You can also check out BuddhaNet - Worldwide Buddhist Information and Education Network they also have a good bit of information about Buddhism. There is a possibility that reincarnation exists then there people that don't believe in it. Until science proves one way or another we will never really know either way. It's the same way with whether Jesus Christ ever existed. Its going to be one of those questions that we will probably never know the real answer too.
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What after-life?
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Rebirth or Reincarnation can be traced further back than Buddhism, at least until the Vedas (1200-900 BCE) and perhaps further to the roots of Hinduism maybe as far back as 3000 BCE.

The Buddha perhaps used the concept of Rebirth to make his Anatta (Pali) doctrine more palatable to the majority Brahmin culture of the time. It's one of the central tensions to Buddhist philosophy; If there's no such thing as the 'Self' then what transmigrates. The Buddha (well at least his Pali incarnation) was very enigmatic in his response to this conundrum, often saying that the Law of Karma, which governs Rebirth, was only fully comprehensible to Buddhas (i.e. fully enlightened human's), but such understanding was not necessary to gain insight and even attain release from the cycle of birth and death. My own opinion is that like all deep spiritual teachings the concept of Rebirth, both Buddhist and Hindu, are 'tools', which we may use skillfully to help us gain insight into our own predicament. Of course we can use them unskillfully aswell, and start mudslinging about exact definitions
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.......It's the same way with whether Jesus Christ ever existed. Its going to be one of those questions that we will probably never know the real answer too.
See now thats interesting because i beleive that Jesus was a real person and did many great things but whither he was the son of God almighty is a totally different issue :-)
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Highly improbable, but a cool idea!
Check it out: www.linuxedge.blogspot.com
Maybe there's a link between using Linux and being rational - and rational people are more likely to be atheists (although I'm not implying that religion is irrational*)


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See now thats interesting because i beleive that Jesus was a real person and did many great things but whither he was the son of God almighty is a totally different issue :-)
You have the right to believe that, but as of now we have no hard evidence tht he existed. According to Islam Jesus existed but he wasn't the son of God he was a prophet just like Mohammed except that Mohammed was a greater prophet. Hence why the worship Mohammed instead of Jesus
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No, Jesus was a very real person. He is publicly accounted for in at least two individual Roman Texts.

However, i have always personally believed that he was an Early-day David Blaine, and realised that he had a whole collection of people he could manipulate to his way of thinking.

Making those people believe he was the Son of God, getting his dad(Joseph) and Brothers(John, Simon Peter)/cousins to back him wasn't that hard. A few minor *cough* "Miracles" *cough*, and he had them eating out of his hand. I also think that there was some bad mistranslation in the new testament, and a lot of exaggeration of the "facts" in the written story.

Sorry, but Jesus was a Fraud, plain and simple. Yes, he started a Religion, but what use has Christianity *really* been to us, when you look at the bigger picture?

It is almost certainly primarily responsible for a lot of the wars that Humanity has had to suffer through-out the ages.

I am not an overtly religious person, but I do Believe in the Human Soul, that it continues after death, and can go on to re-incarnate. The Spirit world to me is almost like another phase...it's like I can almost reach out and touch it.

I do not believe in Heaven or Hell.
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Wasn't it the Romans that also created Christianity, so we really don't know if those texts are truth or if their lies.
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