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Old 01-01-2008   #1 (permalink)
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One of the worst things that can happen in a doctor's examination room, as far as I'm concerned, is a digital exam of the rectum/prostrate. I'd rather get poked in the eye than poked there. I can't imagine something like this being an enjoyable part of sexual activity.

So the question - do you gay guys like the feeling of something in your rectum or is it just tolerated to give your mate pleasure?
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Erm, not being gay myself I wouldn't know, but I don't think hey would do it if they didn't enjoy it, guys and gals do it the same way sometimes so I guess there must be something in it. This post sounds so dirty, lol.
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Erm, not being gay myself I wouldn't know, but I don't think hey would do it if they didn't enjoy it, guys and gals do it the same way sometimes so I guess there must be something in it. This post sounds so dirty, lol.
So some people's physiology is different and what is uncomfortable at best, for most people, is pleasurable for others? I don't think that's the answer. And outside of port films, not a lot of women ask for anal sex. They generally refuse.

I'm standing by my theory that they just endure it to give their partner pleasure. I'd have thought there would have been a gay guy who's out of the closet who could provide some... err... input on this by now.
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The male prostate plays a big part in the sexual pleasure of a man. When you ejaculate, it travels up and around and through/past your prostate. Having your prostate played with is pleasurable for nearly every guy and the best way to access it is through the rectum.

Plenty of heterosexual men take part in anal sex because they enjoy the feeling. My guess is that this is the same for homosexual males.

When a male is the giver during anal sex, they can feel pleasure due to the tightness. When a male is the receiver in anal sex they feel pleasure due to the pressure applied to the prostate. Not to mention that on occasion simple and light rectal stimulation is also pleasurable due to the amount of receptors in that area
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The male prostate plays a big part in the sexual pleasure of a man. When you ejaculate, it travels up and around and through/past your prostate. Having your prostate played with is pleasurable for nearly every guy and the best way to access it is through the rectum.

Plenty of heterosexual men take part in anal sex because they enjoy the feeling. My guess is that this is the same for homosexual males.

When a male is the giver during anal sex, they can feel pleasure due to the tightness. When a male is the receiver in anal sex they feel pleasure due to the pressure applied to the prostate. Not to mention that on occasion simple and light rectal stimulation is also pleasurable due to the amount of receptors in that area
I'm still not buying it. Where are you getting this information about "plenty of hetrosexual men taking part in anal sex" btw? In fact, just wtf are you talking about exactly?

I know what a prostrate exam feels like, and it sure as hell isn't pleasurable. And that's just a friggin' finger.

BTW, just out of curiosity, if you don't mind answering, do you participate in anal sex? Do you like it?
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I'm still not buying it. Where are you getting this information about "plenty of hetrosexual men taking part in anal sex" btw? In fact, just wtf are you talking about exactly?
You need to stop thinking along the lines of "Anal sex is just for homosexuals". Anal sex isn't only for gay men and those who enjoy it don't automatically become gay. You sound like you hate it, or don't like it because if you did it would mean you were gay.
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I know what a prostrate exam feels like, and it sure as hell isn't pleasurable. And that's just a friggin' finger.
And getting a pap smear isn't the slightest bit sexually enjoyable (or even enjoyable) but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy sexual penetration. You can't compare anal sex with a prostate exam, although I have never had one.
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I do occasionally and out of those times it has tiny aspects of enjoyment for me, but mainly it is just weird and uncomfortable. But I am not male and I am not gay
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You need to stop thinking along the lines of "Anal sex is just for homosexuals". Anal sex isn't only for gay men and those who enjoy it don't automatically become gay. You sound like you hate it, or don't like it because if you did it would mean you were gay.
You can't stop trying to pidgeon hole me as a homophobe any time you like. Nothing I've said indicates I have any problem with gay people in general.

You seem to have the idea that some significant number of hetro men, who by definition aren't turned on sexually by men, still have sex with men because they like anal sex? If this is what you're saying, again, where are you getting this info? Or do you mean they ask their female partners to use toys on them? Have you had a lot of partners ask you to do this?

Any straight guys here like receiving anal sex? I'm anticipating crickets chirping on that one.

I've never tried it, but I think its safe to assume I wouldn't like it, because the thought of penetration there disgusts me, and I have reason to believe its uncomfortable. I don't intend to find out.


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And getting a pap smear isn't the slightest bit sexually enjoyable (or even enjoyable) but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy sexual penetration. You can't compare anal sex with a prostate exam, although I have never had one.
I know I can't compare them. Its just a finger with a prostrate exam.

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I do occasionally and out of those times it has tiny aspects of enjoyment for me, but mainly it is just weird and uncomfortable. But I am not male and I am not gay
Thanks for being candid. Weird and uncomfortable sound pretty much spot on, if not an understatement. (Funny, when I say that it must be because I don't like gays.) Are you suggesting you have to be a male gay to enjoy it? Do they have a different physiology than hetros?
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Or do you mean they ask their female partners to use toys on them? Have you had a lot of partners ask you to do this?
I know plenty of males who are married or in heterosexual relationships who use toys during sex play. And I mean in the context of this issue. And I have been the giver before
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Not at all, I am suggesting that it is only normal for males (both hetero and homo) to enjoy anal sex as it has a sexual pay off for men, both in giving and receiving.
Anal sex and males in my view is another area of sexual exploration and isn't automatically associated with homosexuality.
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Don't you think it depends if you like it or not? I mean the prostate exam.

How about Heidi Klum or Al Bundy examining your Balls? I bet you wouldn't enjoy it that much if performed by the latter.

Everything in your world is so damn black an white, it's ridiculous.
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Don't you think it depends if you like it or not? I mean the prostate exam.

How about Heidi Klum or Al Bundy examining your Balls? I bet you wouldn't enjoy it that much if performed by the latter.

Everything in your world is so damn black an white, it's ridiculous.
Careful there buddy. I like you, I don't want you getting a insta ban for ridiculing me on the relationship forum.

Of course it depends on if you like it, that's the freakin' point. I'm asking if anyone really likes it or they just tolerate it and pretend to like it to please their mate. I don't want anyone sticking anything in my rectum, I don't care what they look like. And "ball examinations" aren't physically uncomfortable regardless who's doing them.

I'm talking about physical pain here.

BTW, before you gave up on sex, did you like things in your rectum?
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Im not gay nor would i ever take it up the ass by another man, but like user 1.0 pointed out.

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That has an amazing effect on the Orgasms, It is not uncomfortable unless you go about it the wrong way...
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... I think its safe to assume I wouldn't like it, because the thought of penetration there disgusts me ...
I think this is a big part of what is leading to your confusion. Your reaction to the prostate exam is heavily governed by your feelings towards the concept. You have to break past that personal barrier before you could ever have any chance of enjoyment from 'receiving' anal sex. Then you also have to break past the physical barrier - the rectum when not accustomed to stretching for sex will cause you pain when forced. But it is extremely capable of flexibility. A big bottle of lube, a partner with an open mind, and plenty of time to play with would get you past the physical issue. But that mental/emotional barrier mentioned above has to be overcome first or you'd never be relaxed enough for it to work.

As for how many people of various genders and persuasions who have tried it, here's some data:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad362.pdf
Check page 25 for a quick jump to "Number of males and females 15–44 years of age and percentage who have ever had specified type of sexual contact, by selected characteristics: United States, 2002"
Note though that that study is USA based. My perception has always said that the social stigma against anal *anything* is strongest, overall, in the USA.

For further interesting data, you can go back to the Kinsey Report, which stated that 37 percent of the men and 19 percent of the women had reported homosexual experiences that resulted in orgasm at some period in their lives (and that was 40+ years ago). And a more recent study (1993) called The Janus Report, which I could not find a free copy of online.

Also, I'd like to quickly concur with User 1.0 that there are plenty of people who do engage in and enjoy 'receptive' anal sex, based on both personal and professional experience - I spent a lot of years working as a Community Development Worker in a scenario which plunged me deep into people's trust and I have heard all kinds of things from all kinds of people about their personal lives on a sexual level (and pretty much every other level too).
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BTW, before you gave up on sex, did you like things in your rectum?
Until I learned how to use a toothbrush the way it was meant...

No, seriously, I've no idea, never tried, never felt curious.

Didn't had a prostate exame yet either.


But I know that men can get orgasms by stimulating their prostate.

Is your next question if a girl likes getting raped? oO
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Your reaction to the prostate exam is heavily governed by your feelings towards the concept. You have to break past that personal barrier before you could ever have any chance of enjoyment from 'receiving' anal sex. Then you also have to break past the physical barrier - the rectum when not accustomed to stretching for sex will cause you pain when forced. But it is extremely capable of flexibility. A big bottle of lube, a partner with an open mind, and plenty of time to play with would get you past the physical issue.
You make is sound like a lot of fun, but I don't think I'll start asking my wife to stick things in my ass. I've managed to have a fulfilling life behind those "barriers" and even after your compelling sales pitch, I don't have that nagging feeling like I'm missing out on something.
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Is your next question if a girl likes getting raped? oO
You should try providing intellectually honest answers to the questions I do ask instead of worrying about what I'm going to say next there Kreskin.
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You make is sound like a lot of fun, but I don't think I'll start asking my wife to stick things in my ass. I've managed to have a fulfilling life behind those "barriers" and even after your compelling sales pitch, I don't have that nagging feeling like I'm missing out on something.
LOL - actually it's no sales pitch - I have no interest whatsoever in what your sex life involves. My post was meant only to help you understand why something seemingly as bizarre and repulsive to you could be desirable to others. Another point I forgot to include is I think there could be an element of general togetherness/sharing about penetrative sex which steers people in that direction, despite the fact that in their case they might not get direct 'physical' enjoyment. In other words, the decision to have anal sex is not purely an intellectual/rational one. But all that being said, no doubt there are some who do get their kicks purely from giving their partner *their* kicks, as you suggested. perhaps the emotional enjoyment of that outweighs their physical discomfort. There are those out there who get their kicks in all kinds of weird and wonderful ways, which I find no special attraction in whatsoever (e.g. fetishes). Human sexuality truly is incredibly diverse, and requires, above all, an open mind to understand.

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LOL - actually it's no sales pitch - I have no interest whatsoever in what your sex life involves.
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Your reaction to the prostate exam is heavily governed by your feelings towards the concept. You have to break past that personal barrier before you could ever have any chance of enjoyment from 'receiving' anal sex. Then you also have to break past the physical barrier - the rectum when not accustomed to stretching for sex will cause you pain when forced. But it is extremely capable of flexibility. A big bottle of lube, a partner with an open mind, and plenty of time to play with would get you past the physical issue.
It sounds an aweful lot like a sales pitch to me. Last week you were reinventing definitions of the word troll because you can't apply the regular one to me, this week you're trying to talk me into buying a "big bottle of lube," etc, and so forth. I'd say you have a lot of interest in me.
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It sounds an aweful lot like a sales pitch to me. Last week you were reinventing definitions of the word troll because you can't apply the regular one to me, this week you're trying to talk me into buying a "big bottle of lube," etc, and so forth. I'd say you have a lot of interest in me.
I promise you you are over-rating your own importance to me, and probably in general. I come here for discussion - if a subject seems interesting and you are involved, you are likely to get responded to. I tried actively avoiding your posts with the ignore button, but that is fruitless because I end up seeing your posts in other people's quotes anyway. Plus I feel an obligation of courtesy to read (and usually reply) when someone (even you) responds to something I have said.

As for the 'interactive troll' term - I stand by it 100%, and again (last time though) explain that:

a.) I didnt raise the issue, I just added my personal opinion
b.) I never said it was necessarily bad - just something I don't relate to (causing trouble for the sake of it and even being proud of that fact).

You are the one getting all bothered by it.

Incidentally, inventing new words and terms is how language evolves. I don't see the big deal there - if a new term describes something better than any existing term, then that contributes to the aim of language, which is communication.
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