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| View Poll Results: What if you find out your candidate is a hypocrite? | |||
| I will secretly vote for a hypocrite if I like what he promises, but not openly support him/her. | | 0 | 0% |
| I will not vote for the hypocrite, I'll vote for the other party's candidate. | | 2 | 66.67% |
| I will make excuses for the hypocrisy and openly support and vote for my candidate | | 1 | 33.33% |
| I'll just stay home and not vote for or support any candidate. | | 0 | 0% |
| Voters: 3. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Would you vote for a candidate for president or other office who said he or she is in favor of restricting XYZ while he or she is doing XYZ? For example, suppose you have a candidate who promises she or he will remove tax loopholes and place a higher tax burden on the most successful, all while she is aggresively investing amounts in the hundreds of thousands in tax-free, income generating investments? Or suppose the candidate is a gun enthusiast who owns a number of handguns and semi-automatic rifles, and he is advocating stricter controls on gun ownership. Will this effect your vote? Would you vote for someone who claims he wants to bring people together, end conflict between the two parties, but has never taken the opportunity to work with members of the opposite party and can show no compromise in his own record? |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
Direct answer: No. | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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| Reliable Music I Got Left To Join Date: May 2007
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| I would think it would be feasible to find some example of such hypocrisy in all candidates. As politicians, they all manipulate the truth to try to get elected. So if one was really choosy about not voting for anyone you had a complaint against, you could end up with nobody to vote for. Generally I see voting as choosing the best of a bad bunch. |
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___________________________ Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. - John Lennon | |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
What I am NOT talking about is little stuff, like Obama and his smoking cigarettes. Obama threw some big campaign out on his web site saying "quit smoking with me," and made a big deal about it for a while, then went back to smoking. He's supposedly on the patch trying to quit again. Big deal. Its tough to quit smoking cigarettes because they use freebase nicotine in them. If Obama asked me, I'd have told him not to even try to quit until his life stablizes, not smoke in public, say nothing about it unless asked, then be honest. "Yes, I smoke cigarettes, next question." Even if Obama promoted some new big tax on tobacco, I don't think that would be hypocritical because he's going to be paying it too. Hopefully, with all these clarifications, someone will be able to answer the question and vote in the poll. | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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| Reliable Music I Got Left To Join Date: May 2007
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| Well, the poll is a little on the unattractive side unless one agrees perfectly with any of the offered options - it lacks an "Other" option. That's why I didn't vote in it. So do you have a specific case in mind to discuss? If so, let's hear about it and we can discuss whether we think it's an example of hypocrisy. |
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___________________________ Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. - John Lennon | |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
Or, you can not vote at all, and describe what you'd do in a post. And no, I don't have a specific case to discuss - if I did, I'd have began a thread about it. | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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| Reliable Music I Got Left To Join Date: May 2007
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| Then you have my 'pseudo-vote' ... I don't see hypocrisy as a black/white thing, so assess each case on its merits and assess each candidate in that light, along with other important factors, including their party affiliation and the policies of the party or parties involved. |
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___________________________ Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. - John Lennon | |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
You're right. One of the options should have been: I'll vote for my candidate no matter what and justify it. Oh wait, that was an option. | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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| Stirrer Of Shit | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | |
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This sounds to familiar.. ![]() Sherri | |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | I think its odd - this poll has been up a couple days, and not one person was willing to to indicate blatant (not suggested, not implied, not sorta, but blatant) hypocrisy would effect their vote for their candidate. Apparently, its a matter of "give me my agenda at any price." |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | |
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| Reliable Music I Got Left To Join Date: May 2007
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| Reliable Music I Got Left To Join Date: May 2007
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I said from the start that if you want to consider 'hypocrisy' as a black and white, yes or no, boolean thing, then everyone is probably guilty - including, you me, and anyone else you can think of. Nobody is perfect. To consider it more usefully is fine, but because it's not such a black/white thing, the only practical method in my view is to assess each candidate on their merits. Perhaps a parallel of sorts to help you think a little more openly is concepts of defense in a murder trial such as 'self-defense', 'mental incapacity', etc. Sure, Joe may have killed Bob, but do we stop at that point, saying "case closed - he killed him - nothing else is relevant"? If we don't also consider the contextual circumstances, and weigh the case on its individual merits, we are not giving justice a chance to be served. However, this is an interesting point as a separate issue that possibly warrants its own thread: Quote:
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| #1. I will secretly vote for a hypocrite if I like what he promises, but not openly support him/her. #2. I will not vote for the hypocrite, I'll vote for the other party's candidate. #3. I will make excuses for the hypocrisy and openly support and vote for my candidate #4. I'll just stay home and not vote for or support any candidate. 1. Hypocrite.... 2. The un-decided. Not willing to do the hunt on what it is they want in a candidate..so they settle for less,and vote un-decided anyway 3. The Prideful. Willing even so to live under a possible dictatorship for the sake of there candidate. #4. The loser..the possible reason as to why our country is falling by the wayside now..because he sits on his but and does nothing..nothing at all, no contributions period to society period. Sherri We could use a number 5 here? |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
I'll bite. What should it read? BTW, you didn't read/comprehend one of the voting options. | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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Hi Ras.. Which one are you in question about as far as my answers? and this is your poll. Number 5 is your option to jot down.. I will add..How about.. Its your constitutional right to vote..I will educate myself politically and vote on a candidate that I feel will make a difference for the United States of America. American Idol bores me to tears..I never watch it, dont know how anyone sits through it, but people have different taste. Sherri | |
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| I considered Hillary Rodham Clinton to be a blatant hypocrite. Which is why I wouldn't vote for her. |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | There is no consitutional right to vote in a presidential election. If you disagree, show me in the constitution where. |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | |
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