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| the wicked one | The Numbers speak for themselves, they doubled their support in the last 2 years. And they are against the separation of state and religion. Is this a dangerous situation for Europe? What should be done? |
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| Commentator Join Date: Dec 2007
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| Perhaps a few hundred more years in the dark ages will teach us something... this time around... perhaps germany has some education issues... not sure. I don't know much about german politics. Perhaps they should all be sent copies of The God Delusion and Letter to a Christian Nation... |
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| under construction | How bad is it? Quote:
But certainly would not like it if they got a mayor share, i read that they want non-secularity for the EU as well. As an indication how much i dislike it: The EU ever stopped being secular, i would hope that the Netherlands would pull out on some things with the EU. I dont think it is bad at this moment, though. Perhaps it means that people who know better should be more involved things that form public opinion/mentality. I probably should be too, but i am not the most socializing person possible. (And i dont know enough about Germany, after all, a neighbouring country.) | |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | What do you mean "what should be done?" What options are on the table? Labor camps? Re-education centers? What do you mean? |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | |
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| the wicked one | Quote:
They want to punish atheists, banning scientific book and non-Christian media. Not going to church on Sundays would get you in Prison. Well, they want to replace all Laws and the Basic Law, and use the Bible. They want to free the Holy Land (they don't like Jews and Muslims). Last edited by MRiGnS : 12-09-2007 at 11:44 PM. | |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
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| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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| the wicked one | Right now nothing is done, the Verfassungsschutz (Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution) watches their actions closely though. Rasczak they are christians, they have to be good, so you can leave. |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
Anyway, they don't sound like they know the basics of Christian theology very well. There is no mandate in Christian doctrines for a Christian government. Do you have any links to articles in English about these guys? I'm curious to know what percentage of German Christians they make up. | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
And its doubled in the last couple years? You got some remarkable evangelists over there. At this rate it looks like you'll be marching to Sunday school with the rest of the neighborhood within months. Seriously, are you going to answer any of my questions? I asked you what percentage of German Christians are members of this party not what percentage of Germans claim to be Christians. | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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Are all German Christians so weak enough of mind, then, that you think they'd actually cast a vote for these people? Last edited by Iandefor : 12-10-2007 at 09:55 AM. | |
| Bovina Sancta! Mohandas Gandhi broke the law, too. | ||
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| I see the Fnords. | I grew up in a Christian family, though I'm not personally Christian or religious. Christian libertarians are very common in the U.S. I consider it an impossibility that every Christian, or even a simple majority, in Germany would support such a party. |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | That's a pretty wide bible belt for Germany. |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | |
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| the wicked one | Not 60% are voting this party Lol. He asked how many christians are members or voring for themm so I gave him all the values he needs to do the maths. 62M voters - 0.3% PBC - 186,000 people 62m voters - 60% Chr - 37M people ------------------------------------- Rasczack What Question? How Many Planes they hijacked? The Same ammount 1.3Billion -19 Muslims did. Maybe I'm going to ask my Neighbour, he's Muslim, when He's finally going to blow up the Stadium we're wathching football in. I don't know why you're turning every fucking thread in a "I hate Muslims" rant. On one Side you complaining about the thought police, but you like the idea of the thought police when it comes to Muslims... ![]() Ok, now answer me a question, how many Muslims got killed by Christians in the last few years in Afghanistan and Iraq? And How many Christians or Americans did they kill. Last edited by MRiGnS : 12-10-2007 at 03:41 PM. |
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| Stirrer Of Shit | Quote:
What does the 99.6% of Christians in Germany that aren't PBC have to say about these wackos you're so afraid of? And no, I don't like the idea of thought police - I'm fine with anyone who doesn't put bomb belts on children and beat their women or support those who do, no matter how much they hate me for being secular. As for your last question, not enough - if we're talking about the ones who "love death." As for the rest, an insignificant fraction of the ones who are no longer living under a fascist regimes that are guilty of things like mass genocide, chopping of womens fingers for wearing nail polish, and keeping girls out of schools. | |
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | ||
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MRiGnS never said that they would hijack planes or blow up anything, it does not mean that they are not a threat to free society. (Infact killing people at the rate terrorism does is -at itself- not a threat to free society, our reaction might be.) As much as i dislike the mentality of those .23% i dont think it is really a huge problem. Quote:
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| Stirrer Of Shit | So, you made the connection between hijacking and Muslims, you didn't need me to do it. Quote:
As much as i dislike the mentality of those .23% i dont think it is really a huge problem. Quote:
Its the ones who grab political power by means other than the democratic process, whether its violence or activist judges, etc, you need to worry about. The theme for this thread, as far as I'm concerned, is how silly it is to be worried about such a tiny, insignificant minority who haven't hurt anyone. | ||
| Eric "For whoever habitually suppresses the truth in the interests of tact will produce a deformity from the womb of his thought." -Sir Basil H. Liddel-Hart http://self-composed.com | |||
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