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Old 07-29-2007   #41 (permalink)
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The concentrations present in drinking water today are far lower; the effect on the brain has never been measured as anything above non-existant.
Nahhh... doesn't effect the brain at all...
Fluoride & the Pineal Gland: Study Published in Caries Research

Luke hypothesizes that one of the four enzymes needed to convert the amino acid tryptophan (from the diet) into melatonin is being inhibited by fluoride. It could be one of the two enzymes which convert tryptophan to serotonin or one of the two which convert serotonin to melatonin.

Significance? Huge. Melatonin is reponsible for regulating all kinds of activities and there is a vast amount of work investigating its possible roles in aging, cancer and many other life processes. The one activity that Luke is particularly interested in is the onset of puberty. The highest levels of melatonin ( produced only at night) is generated in young children. It is thought that it is the fall of these melatonin levels which acts like a biological clock and triggers the onset of puberty. In her gerbil study she found that the high fluoride treated animals were reaching puberty earlier than the low fluoride ones.

We know from recent studies - and considerable press coverage - that young girls are reaching puberty earlier and earlier in the US.


I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. I merely wanted to give one example where your statements reflect the lies of the conventional medical establishment, not reality.

I also know that you would willingly consume poison, and advise others to, before you would ever sacrifice being "right", or make your authorities look "wrong".

Anyone who is genuinely interested in their health can go on Google and search for information on fluoride as well as aspartame. Read about it in a variety of contexts and form your own working conclusions. As soon as you get out of the corporate-funded studies, the news about fluoride is anything but good.
study fluoride pineal - Google Search

Meanwhile, Big Dave - keep drinking your fluoride in large quantities. No bottled water for you. Take your own advice. Put your mouth where your money is.

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Actually the Saar and the Wupper are now rather clean and fishing has become usual there again. What you posted talks about the situation in the 70s and since then 30 years have passed. The Wupper back then was one of the most polluted rivers in Europe.

Swimming in the Saar was allowed again in the mid 90s and the fish population is growing.

The water quality is observed by many non-profit organisations and the law for drinking water and river in Germany became the strictest and most rigid in the world.
I have swum in the Saar myself, but not the Wupper, not even in the mid-90's were the locals swimming there. There was no fish then either so I'm afraid you are mistaken.

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Hey voice!

You're right about the restrictions in the evaluations of the majority: They live in fear of having to be responsible for their own thoughts, so they crave constant reassurance from the contrived, shallow answers of their televisions.

Anyone can seem "outward thinking" or "radical" if they compare themselves to television or Mainstream Education.

btw: The reason for the expanse and continuation of aspartame = Donald Rumsfeld is on the payrole of the company producing it! Sound familiar to every other sort of CODEX?

Your examples about the Pineal Gland are very interesting.

Another thing I know that all these companies want to destroy is "Common Sense", you know that "gut" feeling!! I wonder what the chemical responsible for that is? Oh, good grief, it's either seratonin or melatonin that's found in the brain! HOhoHaha! Sorry, my biology and chemistry are very poor, but my understanding of the brainwashing formulas of Neo-Fascist industry are well honed.

All the best!
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I have swum in the Saar myself, but not the Wupper, not even in the mid-90's were the locals swimming there. There was no fish then either so I'm afraid you are mistaken.
I live in Saarbrücken...

If one takes his bike and rides a little up the river towards France there are some nice beaches where people swim, and fishing isn't that much directly in the city, because there is the autobahn and with it comes the noise which scares the fish.

Again, up or down the river without all the noise fishing is very popular.

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I live in Saarbrücken...
I had gathered that by the title of your location. However, no offense, but the Saar is not the Wupper.
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I had gathered that by the title of your location. However, no offense, but the Saar is not the Wupper.
I know, I stil wouldn't drink the water of the Wupper, I'm only saying that the situation has changed and it's getting better.

The pollution has taken place for almost 100 years and it's not possible to get it clean again in just a couple of years. It will take its time.
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I know, I stil wouldn't drink the water of the Wupper, I'm only saying that the situation has changed and it's getting better.

The pollution has taken place for almost 100 years and it's not possible to get it clean again in just a couple of years. It will take its time.
Who mentioned DRINKING the Wupper water? You are correct in saying that things have improved, but I can assure you that people do not go into the Wupper, for any reason, between Wuppertal and the Rhine. And it is the Wupper that I mentioned in my post concerning Bayer. My points in this thread are discussing Bayer and the Wupper. Thanks.
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"i don't avoid women, mandrake, but i do deny them my essence." - gen. jack d. ripper
Must be some heavy fluoride in that toothpaste of yours honey?
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Hey voice!

You're right about the restrictions in the evaluations of the majority: They live in fear of having to be responsible for their own thoughts, so they crave constant reassurance from the contrived, shallow answers of their televisions.

Anyone can seem "outward thinking" or "radical" if they compare themselves to television or Mainstream Education.

btw: The reason for the expanse and continuation of aspartame = Donald Rumsfeld is on the payrole of the company producing it! Sound familiar to every other sort of CODEX?

Your examples about the Pineal Gland are very interesting.

Another thing I know that all these companies want to destroy is "Common Sense", you know that "gut" feeling!! I wonder what the chemical responsible for that is? Oh, good grief, it's either seratonin or melatonin that's found in the brain! HOhoHaha! Sorry, my biology and chemistry are very poor, but my understanding of the brainwashing formulas of Neo-Fascist industry are well honed.

All the best!
There have been several studies regarding it's effects on the Thyroid Gland, as well, with some frightening implications. It is implicated in Bone Cancer, also.
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All the best!
I see that! Nice to have you on here - sometimes I feel so alone! They call me a "conspiracy theorist".
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