Do Muslims want to kill westerners and Christians in holy jihads, and if so how prevalent is this in Muslim society.

I am not trying to offend anyone especially Muslims. I fact I would be excited to hear a Muslim's point of view.

Do Christians want to kill Orientals and Muslims in holy crusades, and if so how prevalent is this in Christian society.

I am not trying to offend anyone especially Christians. In fact I would be excited to hear a Christian's point of view.

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Let me start off by saying that I am not trying to dis Muslims and I am talking about now and not the Medieval ages. I know that at least a handful of Muslims would be willing to kill themselves in order to kill as many "infidels" as possible I was just wondering if that was part of basic religious practice or I was a completely different form or Islam. I'm just a 14 year old kid in the middle of the US and have never met a Muslim. Matthew thank you for your reply. If you don't mind what country do you live in currently and what are the five countries you have been to. And what would you say about suicide bombers?

Thanks!

Oh and MRiGnS I have a heavily German heritage, my great Grandfather was a one of Hitlers valets. My last name is Kracht. I personally don't agree with what Hitler did at all, but what does Germany and Europe think about him now? Are there a lot of Muslims in Germany like the rest of Europe? Sorry about all the questions, but I am really itching to know these things.

you know that 3/4 of the Orient east is occupied by the US, do you? And your political leader said he would be following god's path.

Supporting radical dictatorships and killing thousands of innocents, alongside with some "terrorists".

The religion itself isn't any more violent than any other Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism).


I'm not German. I'm an Italian living in Germany for some years now.
Well, Hitler is probably the most hated man in Europe after George W. Bush at the moment. (no, joke, saw a poll in a German newspaper some months ago)

But which rational thinking being would agree with Hitler anyway and what has this to do with this topic?

Yes, there are a lot Muslims in Europe. Most Immigrants in Germany for example are Turkish.

Actually, there are more Nazis in the US than in Germany. The white-supremacy movement for example.

To tell you the truth I do not support my President or our foreign policy most of the time and I believe that the US is way to belligerent sometimes, but I believe that Islam is a least a fairly violent in the Koran is says that a Muslim will be rewarded in paradise for committing suicide in order to kill Islam's enemies and the Iranian president along with others are very, VERY belligerent for there size. What do you think of America? What would you think of us without Bush?

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And the Bible says you are allowed to possess slaves, have to kill homosexuals and women which have sex before marriage. So what?

There are Christian radicals in Northern Ireland for example which tend to bomb away and throw stones etc at Christians of the other confession.

The Koran also states that killing one human being is like killing all humanity.

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The US isn't very popular in Europe these days, not just Bush. The American people elected him twice so they are responsible for his and their governments actions. Even in the mainstream media Americans are portrayed as stupid, ignorant and wasteful.


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Agreed.

After hearing most of the non-Muslims views on Islam teachings, I noticed that approximately all of them find it incredible, rude and inhuman. (In fact I would think the same if I was a non-Muslim with no understanding of the fundamental Islamic bases) therefore I decided to put this subject in easy words and simple reasoning.
Islam what is it and why?
At first, Islam means the complete soumission to god the all-powerful. Now the problem is clear; is there a possible answer on the question related to the beginning of this universe? Some fricky people come out with something they called the old material which is absurd because this old material by itself needs to a creator. The human reason can automatically perceive that only an all-powerful can create this whole universe. And the prove on that is qur’an which , as you all know , appeared 14 centuries ago at the non-existent technology period , and which comprise some of the latest discoveries about the creation of this universe and its characteristics .
Why Allah created us?
After he created the universe, god created Adam and eve as ancestors of the humanity. its means that it’s all about who believes in him + worships him + go to heaven , and who sticks to scientific theories + follow the soul wishes + go to fell. It’s that simple .
Why god made jihad legal ?
Imagine that you are the king ofn the world and you gave your people all what they need what would you do to the revolters?
Now see it from this side ; god created people , gave them food, family , friends , heart, and feelings, then ungrateful people began worshiping somebody else or became heretical and lived their lives as if there was no punishment or consequence to what they do.won’t it be logical that god orders his followers to try to make the others repent and kill them if they don’t? that’s the basic idea of jihad .but the most important thing that I would like to indicate is that in our times muslims take jihad on the defensive , because as u can see America, especially, is conquering their whole countries.its means that’s the attack stage is not really recommended while muslims are trying to fix their situation from inside.
That’s the Islamic view on jihad
p.s: as u can see my English is not perfect so if you don’t understand anything just let me know….

I don't think there is a problem in understanding what you mean.

But could you tell me in addition to your post where you do live? Just curious.

Sadly Muslims are a minority on this forum despite being one of the major topics.

i'm sorry i dont like to give personal informations about me i prefer to let the others talk to me based on what i say not what i am or where i live and discuss stuffs objectively u see what i mean?
im sorry anyway

k, I respect that.

Is this the Islamic view or is this your view?

back at the university one of my fellow student's father was a Imam and I actually talked quite a bit with him about this.

In his opinion a Jihad is never righteous as it is contradicting in his opinion other more relevant parts of the quran.

I'm not convinced Americans elected Bush. He lost the popular vote in 2000, and was helped by electronic voting machine "errors" in 2004. I think the real problem is that Americans have settled into a pattern of learned helplessness, and don't vote anymore.

sorry i did not get what you mean, could you be more clear please?

In my experience of Muslim countries and Muslims themselves, I find them to be very kind, caring and heart-warming people. I've met some extremely hospitable people in Muslim countries before, who were so welcoming and so glad to meet me, I could hardly believe it.

That said, Islam does currently seem to be breeding a lot of extremist Muslim terrorists. Almost all current terrorists are Muslim, but most Muslims are not terrorists; it's simply a small minority who have to be violent. There does appear to be a rising number of Muslims who seem to have a vituperative hatred of the West, and the terrorist attacks we have been witness to since the turn of the Millennium are evidence of that. However, compared to the number of Muslims there are, the extremist ones are still in the minority; it's unfair to criticise Islam for that.

One thing that I have observed, however, is that after terrorist attacks, very few Muslims speak out deploring the incident - to the Western world, it appears as though the Muslim world condones it. More moderate Muslims need to speak out, and make it apparent that they do not condone terrorist attacks, and that it is only a small minority responsible. It would make the Muslim world look far more credible and trustworthy, which can only be a good thing.

No, problem. I'll try to.

You tried to describe the Islamic view of the Jihad which differs from the view of my friend's father who is an Imam of a Mosque in this city.

That's one of the reasons I wanted to know more about you. Not about your person but something about your background to make it easier to understand.
Many people in the west don't know much about Islam and you could help to build a bridge by providing us with some informations, maybe a new thread about the teachings in your division and differences to others. People often fear thing they don't know.

For example to what division of Islam you belong: Sunni, Shi'a, Kharijite, Wahabbism to only name a few.

In Christianity for instance Catholics, Baptists and Methodists to name some differ quite a bit in their understandings of the Bible or their faith although all being Christians.

Actually, that's a very common false assumption. Most terrorists in the world at the moment are radical leftists, just look at South American, African or some well known European terrorist groups.
The number of victims surpasses the list of people killed by radical Muslim terrorists by far.

The problem is that most of their attacks don't hit many Westerners so the press coverage in the EU/USA is very low.

I have been trying to research this stuff a little more and I came across sites, like this. How would this kind of stuff be explained and do you really believe that in hard core Muslim countries like Iran this stuff is not taught litterally? Islam-Terrorism, Inc.

I don't only believe this but I know that is not always taught like that.

An old book, have you bothered reading the Bible or especially the old testament?

did you google for muslim terrorism or how did you end up on such sites?