Normal is how we try to act in the presence of others. When we tire of being normal we seek privacy.

Wow great responses everyone it helps me determine what type of people are on this forums and their open mindedness.
Now theres one thing that i don't see a thread just for is about homosexual opinion, i noticed that this thread has touched bases on it but it was not intended.

This is an excellent insight.

Interesting

NOrmal could be compared to a mathamatical average.
How do all other animals act sexually? based on that, homsexual actions are not normal, Then niether is and human sexual trait. But based on human sexual actions of a given area, then it could be at a normal level, i guess.

But to some people Homosexualality is a fetish, if you think of it that way its still hard to define a normal sex

I would say "normal" is a statistical point of view. A normal (gaussian) distribution is a bell shaped type of curve. If you look at the mean ± the standard deviation, you get around 70% of the population. So a large majority of the population is within mean ± sd.

There is also a social dimension to "normal". What is currently considered acceptable is within the "normal" distribution of the population. What is outside is considered not "normal".
Of course, all of this is at the population level.

As far as the gay thing, my guess is that is was not considered as "normal" because not falling into the overall common, average (70% limit) group. These are numbers only. I'm not being rude to anyone.

One interesting point, and sorry, I have been looking where I read that and could not find it, when a group reaches the 30% threshold within the population, its is not discriminated against so heavily. It gets closed to the "norm", the "average".

I find that the closer you look at a so called "normal" person you find that the person isnt actaully normal but pretending to be "normal" in the first place

And the closer you look at a person you classified as "not normal", once you get to know that person, the most "normal" she/he gets.

Population statistics do not work at the individual level, and fortunately we can choose (or try to) not to be ruled by those.

Ever so true, An interesting quote poped into my head but for the life of my big toe i cant remember it, something about a single person having rational thoughts but the second you get a group together the "mob" frame of mind comes out You then seperate each person and show them what they did, they weren't aware of it." Now this is what the quote means to me, and its obviously not in the exact wordng but you hopefully get the point. :-)
(if that makes sense or if someone knows the actual quote pleases enlighten me)

About the homosexuality thing;

Biologically; it's not normal, since apparently other mammals need a male and female to produce an organism.

But otherwise, homosexuality has been around for a long time, and I very much doubt it's going to disappear. It's not like it will increase though. I'm guessing it will be always there, but in limited numbers.

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I'll have to ask one of my friends who is in animal behavior, but I think other animals experiment homosexuality. And it did not use to be abnormal in ancient civilizations.

As the previous post stated, the pressure of the mob.

You dont have to look far, you look at some of the most species that use intercourse not just for breeding, dolphins and chimps are to name a couple. You can also look at dogs(and other animals in the dog family), the act of dry humping someone is to show dominance. Some people would consider that being a homosexual. You can also look at Roman times when you look at the brothels ( i don't think they were called that but you get the idea), you had a selection of boys and girls.

I think as far as homosexuality goes: Sure, anatomically it's incorrect, but only if you INTEND to breed. The world is overpopulated. They are a good solution to the population crisis. If only more people were gay...

I suspect that producing offspring is, from an individual's point of view, generally an unintended side-effect of (some) sexual activities. Yeah, it has an evolutionary/social purpose but so are a lot of impulses that we don't necessarily have to or try to understand in terms of cause and effect. But I may be wrong. I often am. Just ask my wife.

But I don't think a lot of homosexuals come away from a sexual encounter thinking "Damn, I'm not pregnant again!"

Normal isn't, we're all unique. Although there's limits to what extent.

Advice they guy you discussed with to read history. Homosexuality is very normal, it always has been. Even in the old Greece it was a commonly accepted kind of relation. What do you think kept the mood up for soldiers in the field for weeks upon weeks? they were all men!

The greeks are great for making jokes about in history classes... did you notice the reference to it in the film 300 where the main character (i forget his name, wasn't really paying attention to the movie) refers to the philosophers of Athens as "boy lovers"?

animals is a definate yes,i used to work on a marino stud 1200 young rams in the paddock ,they would pick on a couple of the scrawny ones and shag them to death,
not litterally but they were no good to sell after so they were shot

Once in a scientefic experiment, a big group people was asked to point out all the unnormal people.
So to begin with, the group looked like this:

|-------------------------------------------|

Where all the normal people are inside the | |.
Now after asking them to point out all the unnormal people, the group looked like this:
---- |----------------------------------| -----

Again they where asked to point out all the unnormal people, and they did, so now there group looks like this:
---------- |-------------------| --------------

And again they where asked:
--------------- |----------| ------------------


So what can you conclute from this experiment?
That either there is no such thing as Normal and unnormal, or
that it is normal to be unnormal.

It'd be interesting to see if that's true Since I always thought Hemosexuality was a human made idea...


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