[Jentsu]

All for it!

Any opposed?

(I'd rather defeat arguments against it than make arguments for it, because that would be more effective anyways.)

[JoshJ]

For it.

[Jentsu]

Originally Posted by JoshJ For it.

Good man, good man.

[bapoumba]

I'm against it because basically addiction destroys life.
I'm for it because illegal traffic sets up parallel economics that raise up so much money, its insane.

So I do not know. Improve society?

[Jentsu]

Originally Posted by bapoumba I'm against it because basically addiction destroys life.

You mean like with cigarettes and alcohol? They're also addictive. In fact, they're far more addictive than any other drug I've ever used consistently. (I wouldn't say tried, as I've used opiates before, but I'm very careful not to use them, or any drug, on a regular basis.)

[Wybiral]

I'm all for it.

The amount of money we dump into drug enforcement, and the number of minor drug offenders filling up our prisons and jails just eating away at our economy.

We could be making money from it via taxation (like alcohol and tobacco).

Addiction? People are going to do it anyway... Now they do it unsafely while funding gangs and diverting profits outside of our country.

Alcohol is no less addictive then say, marijuana, and probably more damaging (notoriously destructive on your liver). Plus drunks are often more violent and aggressive while most illegal drugs are downers that prevent people from becoming aggressive.

But soft drugs like marijuana are gateway drugs??? Sure... If you have to buy them from someone who might offer you harder drugs.

At least the milder drugs should be legal... Marijuana users should not be wasting our prison and jail space, and enforcement should not be wasting our law officials time.

[ButteBlues]

Against it for the addiction, which has done far more damage to many I hold dear than alcohol or tobacco.

For it, because the tax revenue alone would be astronomical.

[Wybiral]

Originally Posted by ButteBlues Against it for the addiction, which has done far more damage to many I hold dear than alcohol or tobacco. For it, because the tax revenue alone would be astronomical.

So it's done damage while still being illegal? Do you think legalizing them would cause more damage?

Personally I don't... I think them being illegal makes them harder to get from safe places, and makes buying them from a dealer more likely to result in exposure to harder drugs.

I also think the illegality of them turns certain people onto them.

[ButteBlues]

Originally Posted by Wybiral So it's done damage while still being illegal? Do you think legalizing them would cause more damage? Personally I don't... I think them being illegal makes them harder to get from safe places, and makes buying them from a dealer more likely to result in exposure to harder drugs. I also think the illegality of them turns certain people onto them.

I think legalizing it would make those same stupid people - meaning those who got addicted - even more likely to get addicted and shoot themselves in the proverbial foot, yes.

While, morally, I disagree with recreational use of such substances - I'm fine with medical usage - I think that some people do use them responsibly.

[robert98374]

I am for it,
More for marijuana more than anything else because of the reason that it was made illegal in the first place. i saw many ads from those days where it was demoted as being a violent drug. As a person that used to smoke marijuana on a daily basis it did not even remotely make me violent, it did quite the opposite.

[Wybiral]

But they are probably going to do it either way. Why not make it safer for them?

They go to the store to buy some marijuana, and they DON'T deal with illegal drug dealers... They DON'T risk it being mixed with other substances to boost profits. And they DON'T have to negotiate with dealers who are likely to be pushing harder substances (which may encourage them to try).

[raffytaffy]

i would like steroid hormones to be taken of the scheduled substance list and made available over the counter. ( to ADULTS 21+ years of age ) However narcotics and downers and uppers..including alcohol and tobacco should be prohibited.

[Wybiral]

Originally Posted by raffytaffy i would like steroid hormones to be taken of the scheduled substance list and made available over the counter.

Why should steroids be legal, but not marijuana?

Originally Posted by raffytaffy However narcotics and downers and uppers..including alcohol and tobacco should be prohibited.

BUT I FREAKING NEED THEM! (jk)

What about caffeine? Sleeping pills? Cough syrup? Ephedrine?

Casein (the protein in milk) breaks down into casomorphin (a potentially addictive opiate).

Rollercoasters and spicy food release natural endorphins (indigenous opiates) and adrenal compounds (stimulants/uppers).

Where exactly should we draw the line?

[Extreme Coder]

Biologically speaking, drugs aren't definitely good, in terms of what they cause to your body, and their addiction.

But legally speaking, the more we try to prevent it, the more people try to break the laws. They're using the " Rules were made to be broken " idea, so we might as well use the money we lose on more important areas.

Extreme Coder

[GooFy]

i am for it
the reason./
the social cost of drug addiction is an increase in crime and the targeted group is generally the elderly .
addicts with a thousand or more dollar a day habit have to resort to crime so they can finance there addiction,
therefor it stands to reason it it was made avaliable cheaply and strictly controlled then the crime rate (home intrusions) would drop.
an addict is an addict no matter what the addiction,it is a disease ,there for treatable.(but they have to be ready)
pot is less harmfull than cigarettes ,so i see no point in this being illeagle

prohabition has never worked and never will,so it stands to reason that the billions of dollars world wide spent to curb the drug trade,would be better spent on helping the poor and underdeveloped countries.

in short if the gov of the day controlled the production and distribution of the drugs ,it would cut crime,organised crime would suffer,and deaths from overdose could be adverted.
the tax revenue could then help improve a lot of problems.

ok that is my opinion any way

[rjwood]

The only reason pot is not legal is because the drug industry cannot patent it. The corporate whores in Washington refuse to do what is best for the general public and choose to pander to lobbyists and corpoate america.

[raffytaffy]

Originally Posted by Wybiral Why should steroids be legal, but not marijuana? BUT I FREAKING NEED THEM! (jk) What about caffeine? Sleeping pills? Cough syrup? Ephedrine? Casein (the protein in milk) breaks down into casomorphin (a potentially addictive opiate). Rollercoasters and spicy food release natural endorphins (indigenous opiates) and adrenal compounds (stimulants/uppers). Where exactly should we draw the line?

Well it would sure make it a lot easier for ageing male adults to receive HRT or TRT ( hormone replacement therapy ) ( testosterone replacement therapy) . This is just one reason of many. As to marijuana, thats a psychedelic. i did not mention psychedelics did i? ( look over post ) i said narcotics, downers and uppers. I have nothing against psychedelics.

[stalker145]

Ya' know, I never really think about this. Being former law enforcement, I'm so hung up on getting the junk off the streets and out of people's hands.

Good points on cleaning up the drugs and making them pure. Good points on taxing them and turning out some money for society... I'll have to mull this one over.

And maybe light up a joint legally when I get out of the military

[ButteBlues]

Originally Posted by Extreme Coder Biologically speaking, drugs aren't definitely good, in terms of what they cause to your body, and their addiction. But legally speaking, the more we try to prevent it, the more people try to break the laws. They're using the " Rules were made to be broken " idea, so we might as well use the money we lose on more important areas. Extreme Coder

Even if legalized, that same demographic will be abusing them. It's slapping a tiny Band-Aid on the problem and making some tax revenue is all; it doesn't actually deal with the issue at hand, and that is drug addiction.

[Wybiral]

Originally Posted by raffytaffy Well it would sure make it a lot easier for ageing male adults to receive HRT or TRT ( hormone replacement therapy ) ( testosterone replacement therapy) . This is just one reason of many. As to marijuana, thats a psychedelic. i did not mention psychedelics did i? ( look over post ) i said narcotics, downers and uppers. I have nothing against psychedelics.

Marijuana is a hard drug to classify in my opinion (my professional drug use opinion, lol, jk). It has downer and psychedelic effects. But it's also a pain reliever (which may put it in a narcotic class).

My point really is that drugs are chemicals... And I don't feel that any chemical should be illegal should one CHOOSE to use it.

Rat poison will kill you... But it's legal. So is it a matter of addiction? Cigarettes are probably the most addictive chemical I've encountered (I'm still trying to quit)...

I've been able to smoke pot on occasions without having a craving for it. Same with N2O, LSD, and psilocybin (those are psychedelics though, so I guess I see your point).

I've had access to just about every drug I can think of, yet I abuse alcohol and tobacco more then anything... Why? Because they are flat out more addictive.

And based on my research, they are WAY worse for your health then a toke on the ganja every now and then

Anyone who listens to Bob Marley knows this...