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Old 06-01-2007   #101 (permalink)
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Legalize pot!

how many time do you have to hear "man when I get up of this couch I'm gonna kick your ass! ...5 minutes later... Man I'm hungry, wanna get sumthin' to eat?" before you realize they ain't gonna do nothin'?
Well, it seems that foreboding has fallen over the calm world that I call home. ZS forums and I are now best buds. (I think that zombies have less cred than nukes as a doomsday, but slightly more than aliens...)
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Old 06-01-2007   #102 (permalink)
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People should have the right to act stupid. I dislike seeing people wearing brand clothes (I think brands are stupid) , listening to Britney Spears and paying for Norton anti-virus.
Who are you to tell people they cannot hallucinate?
Next thing you'll tell them not to whistle 'Boyzone' tunes or not to buy 'hello Kitty'.
If I want to spend my whole life watching reruns of 'friends' and eating 'doritos', I should have the right to. Even though it is a complete waste of human life and probably lead to early death from boredom and malnutrition.
I can't help to think that many of the ones doing drugs will take it out on other people some day.

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What does your government say about 'drugs'?
That it's bad? Of course they go a little more into detail about it, but I don't intend to repeat all they say.


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Off topic: Was your name misspelled on purpose? Or is it not the guy from Inuyasha?

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Old 06-01-2007   #103 (permalink)
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I can't help to think that many of the ones doing drugs will take it out on other people some day.
What makes you say that? Almost all societies use some form of intoxication, whether it's alcohol , marijuana ,tobacco or others.
It's mostly up to the individual , if a person is well balanced then doing some drugs will not result in any problem. If the person has some issues then drugs might intensify it.
It's the same with religion . Religion can help people lead a better life. But some people are so f**ked-up that they end up using religion as pretext for violence and insanity.
Freedom is dangerous , information can be dangerous (and drugs are some type of information) . You can play it safe like China, take away the responsibility from the people and decide the rules of the games for them. Or you can experience with freedom, let people discover for themselves.

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Misspelled in the first forum I joined (Fedora forum I think) and kept it that way ever since. I can read Kanji but not Hiragana so I never know how to write the pronunciation in latin alphabet.
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Old 06-01-2007   #104 (permalink)
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Then you need to start your own country, basically your telling me we should just let people smoke whatever or do whatever than trust their ability to drive a car or operate machinery. You are fucking crazy!
Legalizing drugs does not mean we have to let people drive under the influence.

This is quite possibly the dumbest argument I've ever seen regarding drugs- "If we legalize marijuana people will drive while high!"

I wasn't aware it was legal to drive while drunk, I guess alcohol is illegal then.
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Old 06-02-2007   #105 (permalink)
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What makes you say that? Almost all societies use some form of intoxication, whether it's alcohol , marijuana ,tobacco or others.
It's mostly up to the individual , if a person is well balanced then doing some drugs will not result in any problem. If the person has some issues then drugs might intensify it.
It's the same with religion . Religion can help people lead a better life. But some people are so f**ked-up that they end up using religion as pretext for violence and insanity.
Freedom is dangerous , information can be dangerous (and drugs are some type of information) . You can play it safe like China, take away the responsibility from the people and decide the rules of the games for them. Or you can experience with freedom, let people discover for themselves.
I'm for a ban on alcohol and marijuana. Tobacco does not induce a "rush" and is therefor not dangerous. The question about tobacco is a whole other issue.

You said it yourself, drugs will intensify all experiences, good or bad. That's pretty much what I base my argument on. The people using drugs are not only endangering themselves, but also those around them. In what way are you referring to drugs a a kind of information?

China is not ideal in any way. They're imprisoning people for political views, that's very different from imprisoning people for possibly endangering other people's lives.

Would you say the police is infringing on my freedom if they look me up for killing a person? Even if I didn't kill anyone, would you consider it my right to wave a knife in front of someone saying I'm going to kill him even if I don't do it?

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Misspelled in the first forum I joined (Fedora forum I think) and kept it that way ever since. I can read Kanji but not Hiragana so I never know how to write the pronunciation in latin alphabet.
What the...? How do you learn to read kanjis without learning hiragana? You must have like... tried not to learn them?
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I'm for a ban on alcohol and marijuana. Tobacco does not induce a "rush" and is therefor not dangerous. The question about tobacco is a whole other issue.
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I beg to differ, Umm Nicotine High anyone?
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Legalize pot!

how many time do you have to hear "man when I get up of this couch I'm gonna kick your ass! ...5 minutes later... Man I'm hungry, wanna get sumthin' to eat?" before you realize they ain't gonna do nothin'?
you surley watched way too many comedy shows,

cannabis indica makes you stoned but cannabis sativa has a highy psychedelic impact which can lead to horrifying phantasies and sever aggression.

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I beg to differ, Umm Nicotine High anyone?
I'm sorry? If you're reffering to the rush I know from nicotine, where you just get, well, "happy", then this conversation is over. If not, tell me what the hell you're talking about and I'll go ask my mother who's smoked for about 40 years.
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All for it!

Any opposed?

(I'd rather defeat arguments against it than make arguments for it, because that would be more effective anyways.)
NEVER!!! I AM AGAINST DRUGS! I AM AGAINST LEGALIZING DRUGS!
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I personally think that drugs should be made legal for a certain amount of time. If it is legal the governments can supply and then, at least it is not cut with even more dangerous substances. People would know what they are getting. It also doesn't directly support crime through this way even tough it would exist for people to get their next fix. This would possibly kill of drug dealers, which then governments could slowly reduce the amount of drugs people take and eventually kill it off altogether.

People should be made to take up a programme of quitting the drugs. Slowly cutting it down. until the person is off the substance.

The problem being, no matter how hard governments/people try there will always be drugs sold if there is a demand for it. If governments sell it, it would be cleaner and the no addicted people would get the benefits such as money for schools ect.
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What the...? How do you learn to read kanjis without learning hiragana? You must have like... tried not to learn them?
OFF TOPIC
I didn't try to learn Kanji. I read Chinese
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Against it.

First of all, I still cannot come in terms with the idea of using it for anything other than medical purposes. Moreover, making it illegal and difficult to obtain instills a sense of fear among the masses and hence refrain people from trying it out at the first place.
You haven't hit the teens yet, have you? See post above yours. Apparently this "sense of fear" doesn't work as well as you think.
In case it wasn't apparent, sarcasm is yet another free service I offer.

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NEVER!!! I AM AGAINST DRUGS! I AM AGAINST LEGALIZING DRUGS!
Dude, you need to come out of your shell.
In case it wasn't apparent, sarcasm is yet another free service I offer.

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