See other global warming thread for a debate
This is just a poll.

so where is the poll ?

Just posted it

Just because the planet Earth is a bit nearer to the sun(orbit changed slightly) they call it global warming and say that the end is upon us. I do agree that us humans pollute a bit too much though.

I think humans are there for part of it, but I'm not convinced that we are completely responsible of it...

Well i'm glad the majority of people voted for believing in global warming cause by human activities

I'm not a climate scientist, but I do know that almost without exception every climate scientist, geographer and meteorologist has confirmed that the Earth is heating up due to our activities - and without thoroughly researching the area I'm happy to trust their judgement.

Just like how there's a "concensus" among scientists :P

I voted "Don't care" since there wasn't an option for "Don't know/too litle information". If the climatologists and meterologists can't accurately predict what's going to happen as little as two or three days out, it's arrogant to believe that we can predict something on such a grand scale as global warming-what's causing it and what it's going to do to us...

Doesn't anyone of you believe in the UN's analysis?

qtwerp, it's not as simple as that. Weather works in patterns and it's much easier to predict what will happen in general than it is to know exactly where, when and what will happen as far as the weather is concerned. Are there any experts on the forum that would like to comment?

edit: topasPV, yes!

While I don't intend on turning this into the other thread.... moniker42- I do know that weather tends to work in patterns but by saying that humans are causing global warming, that means that what we're experiencing now isn't part of those patterns. Since most of our weather data that we base the "global warming" trend on isn't so finely grained (core samples, etc), I can't imagine that a very short 100yr span can show a trend based on our previous data unless it's very drastic (much more than we have now). Are humans the primary cause of global warming? Who knows. Is global warming a long term trend or will it cause us problems in the future? Who knows. There simply isn't enough information. Most of the "proof" about global warming only goes back to the 1830s or so. Going back further, there are many blips, hot and cold, based on the (rough) data we have from before that time.

Some people in the 70s، scientists included, even thought that we had a problem with global cooling, which was ridiculous...

I don't believe in the UN for anything :P

We have all seen An Inconvenient Truth, haven't we? That's fairly conclusive if you ask me, if a little biased. If you get it on DVD you can fast-forward the crap about Al Gore's personal life

Yes although it's a little hypocritical that he's flying around the world to find out how people are destroying it.

I would point people who want more information in the direction of the Centre for Alternative Technology Centre for Alternative Technology Home Page.

we are contributing to the global warming ,
but you do have to take into account the slight change in earths orbit,the sun moving closer to becoming a super nova(albiet several million years away)
but as the sun grows and intensify it will get hotter.
we had the dinosaurs and they were wiped out by the ice age,the earth has got steadily warmer since the end of this age.
the earth is millions of years old,we the humans a in the mere thousands,with the tech revolution in the hundreds.
and we are vain enough to think we are the major cause of everything.
it is just a case of we cant see the trees for the forest

I'd say we are the major factor causing Global Warming,with a ratio of something like 75 % human damage and 25 % other factors.

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I believe the even split in the US portion of the poll shows the sheer impact that Fox News and MSNBC has over facts on our side of the pond.

I'm also voting "I don't care" for two reasons:
1.) the answer I'd really like isn't there
2.) I see this topic in so many places I no longer care

Err... no, we all haven't. That would require me to have something resembling a life... out there... with... people.

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Not really directed at you solar.george - but I think i might go around the forum from now on pointing out all the fallacies (attack on the person in this) that people commit, maybe a mod could highlight them in bold green

@solar.george - maybe so, I commented on that when I was watching the film but it doesn't invalidate any of the evidence in anyway, just makes us wonder whether Al Gore is the person to be telling us about how to prevent global warming (all for him informing people about it). There was a similar article that was big news a few months ago about how much power his large mansion consumes every year and, like, how many cremated puppies it's equivalent to; but again it doesn't affect the quality of his arguments. Although i do wonder why a millionaire with acres and acres of land can't invest in some solar panels.

Not all of us have broadband. I'm still on a dial up connection that's running at 14k. If I down it, I might be able to watch it in a month or two. :/

i voted for the 4th one:

the man made global warming movement is a political movement where there is trillions of UK pounds at stake. there is big money at stake, and they are going to see to it that all the evidence is on their side....using any and all underhanded means possible.
the michael mann graph is an example. its is a poltical graph designed to give the impression to the layman that man is causing warming, and it is taken by the IPCC as being definitive. yet there are some very suspicious facts about it:

a) he refuses to publish the source of his data. i wonder why
b) the little ice age and the medieval warm period strangely disappeared from the graph, even though they have been scientifically proven to be global in extent.
c) when random data is fed into the algorithm used to produce the michael man graph, it also produces the hockey stick shape. again, i wonder why

the truth is, we are only just coming out of the little ice age, and thats why the little ice age had to "disappear" from the graph. the mediavel warm period had to disappear because it shows that temperatures rose at a faster rate and achieved a warmer period that now without any fossil fuel burning.

You all remember that pillar of truth, Al Gore.
When did he invent the internet? I forgot the date.

Global warning has been happening for millions of years. What caused the Ice Ages of the past?
Maybe in the future we will go back in time and cause them also.
The Earth is in a constant cycle of climate change. Look at those experts and see who pays them. Colleges are supported by people. People that want to prove a point.
And grants are written in such a way that makes the money only aviliable to those that prove the points paid for.