Sounds like you are off to a great start with a business plan for an insurance company. You sell fat people health insurance for the same price other insurance companies sell it to healthy people. You'll have no shortage of fat people who will buy policies from you. Now you just need to find investers dumb enough to throw their money away on it.

Sounds like you'll have better luck selling carrots.

In fact, part of "fair insurance" is ensuring that those who have the most risk bear the most financial burden. It is against regulations of whoever it is that regulates to charge equal amounts to people of unequal risk (I'm not sure it's a legal matter, it might just be industry standard). I have friends who are actuaries (for those who don't know, they're the guys who decide how much the insurance companies charge whom).

Uh, not in the free world.

Young people have higher insurance rates for auto insurance because statistically they have more accidents. Same with male and female - women pay less.

I wouldn't sell them it would just be an addition to universal health care

Society is not responsible for the problems of a single person.

It all comes into this "choice and responsibility" thing that Rasczak posted about. If you make the choice to eat fatty foods, you take the responsibility for the problems it will invariably cause. I don't see how I can make it fairer or simpler than that.

...or feline helmets made out of watermelons.

I am well aware of the fact that you can get some large people who are as fit as an ox. However I don't think we should be celebrating fatness. That is just wrong and sending the wrong message to our children.

We should be celebrating health, and then if that includes overweight people let it.

ya some slightly larger peeople can be fit as a fiddle, but ive yet to see a single person above 300lbs though who could in any way be described as fit

I would describe sumo wrestlers as very fit

i should have reworded my previous post, to include "fit and healthy"

diabetes 2 in your 50s.. that's almost everyone in the western world

not only the fat.

Dunno about where you are, but most diabetics i know, and i know a few, didnt even get diabetes till their late 50's yet these people are dying of it in their 50's, big difference,, death in your 50's compared to your late 70's or mid 80's is quite a significant difference i would say.

Rubbish.

Late-onset type 2 diabetes is specifically caused by abnormally large sugar and fat intake. It's a self-inflicted medical problem. Your pancreas gets sick of producing insulin and decides to give up.

I'm pretty damn sure you're not aware of the cost of insulin, because if you were you'd know it's not cheap. Health insurance companies have to charge people in this situation more. Otherwise, they'd be bankrupt. It's totally infeasible, despite your belief that it's unfair.

im gonna stick by my previous post, fat acceptance is about as acceptable as alcoholics acceptance.

I'm agreeing with you on this, by the way...

yeah i know it wasnt a post in response to yours i just felt i should give my position its own post

my father has diabetes 2 and he's thin like iggy pop. It has more to to with the over sugared food products than with your body fat.

diabetes 2 is also called "altersdiabetes" in german which means diabetes of the eldery.

they won't go bankrupt if you increase the taxes. it's simple.

so what your saying is tax everyone because a minority totally lack any form of self control?
It does have a lot to do with your sugar intake, but your body fat is just as much to blame, as a hormone produced by fat cells causes you to develop insulin resistance over time, 83% of American diabetics are obese, the more fat cells you have the quicker youll release enough hormone to make yourself diabetic, of course their are other factors as well, but that shouldnt let you ignore the overwhelming largest contributor (pun intended)

simply put if your fat youll get diabetes younger and more severely.
my dads got diabetes too.

I know it's to do with sugar intake. It just so happens, however, that many people (and yes, I know correlation does not prove causation) who eat sugary foods do not exercise enough to use that excess sugar, thus forcing the body to store it as fat. Although some people develop type 2 diabetes in later life idiopathically, most cases are related to sugar intake.

People do not develop type 2 diabetes from eating salad for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Making insurance companies suffer financially for that is simply unfair, and oppposes all concepts of free enterprise.

Now, how many times am I going to have to repeat that?

Just making sure, mate!

That's like auto insuranse. Bad drivers are forced to pay more for coverage, while good drivers pay less.

Same with health coverage and smoking. Smokers pay more. Most companies won't hire you if they find out or think that you are a health risk, or if they think that you're too old. And they're not supposed to deny you because of your age! But they do anyway.

Between the summer of last year and this summer and fall, I must have filled out at least about 5 dozen apps or more and no one, and I mean NO ONE offered me even a piece of a a job. Not one!!

I'm beginning to think that they think I'm too old, but they can't say that, for it IS discrimination if they do. So they all gave me some bullcrap excuse, saying that I'm not qualified for the job as a cook when my resume proves that I am!!!

Went though a culinary coarse and everything, had years and years of experience and nothing!!! I just gave up!! I was just banging my head on a brick wall!!

A man was once refuse employment driving a truck cross country because of his obesity. He filed a lawsuit and won.

Well that seems strange - I would think if you have a disability that prevents you from being able to drive properly/safely, and you declare this to the authorities, you won't be able to legally drive. But maybe I'm unusual in thinking a drivers license should be an earned privilege, not a right.