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Old 06-28-2008   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 1veedo View Post
I'm not a big fan of drugs. I remember first semester of college I tried alcohol off a whim and, knowing that marijuana is safer for you than alcohol, decided to try that too. Marijuana seems like it would be hard to get addicted to. Alcohol on the other hand seems like something that could be addictive.

And yes kevmartin I was talking about physical addiction; anything can be psychologically addicting. By having done weed and alcohol (and just to set the record strait salvia as well) I can honestly say I'm drinking kava because it really is beneficial. I would do alcohol / weed to have fun "artificially" and it was always in the evening at a designated time, usually planed ahead of time, with other people, and we knew what we were doing and why we were doing it. I have used kava "recreationally," and probably will again when I'm back at college, but even in these cases it was in the same context as above. So I know personally what the difference is.

That isn't really what this was supposed to be about, of course, but whatever. I mean I don't know, I have autism and find things to be very... difficult. The past two months I've been an intern and have been drinking kava at work and it really, really helps. The difference between being socially competent and being run down by external stimuli (fucking highheels always clanking down the hall and people talking loudly two yards from you) is kava.

I'm not going to be one of those people that gets on a forum and complains about things though; I hate reading all the autism forums where people are always complaining about how autism makes things hard for them.

Also of note is that I discovered kava looking for other herbs -- I had tried st john's wort out of curiosity (made things worse, actually, suddenly everything was much brighter than before), ginseng, gluten-free diet + B6 etc just trying different things and I have been most successful with kava.


On an unrelated note the thread has been hijacked for a week now amiright? Time to drink some more kava btw.
I don't really buy into the idea that there is a clear distinction between something being addictive because it has physical withdrawal symptoms and something not being addictive because it doesn't. Psychological and emotional withdrawals can be more debilitating than physical ones at times, so I don't see the point of drawing that distinction other than to say 'this group of behaviours isn't addictive'.

And again I would point out that I pass no judgment or much care that anyone chooses to take any given substance, or indulge in any behaviour for that matter, as long as it is not to the detriment of others. I sure as hell have no problem with you drinking kava at work to help get you through the day - there's plenty of people who will smoke a little weed to help get them through the day too - I have no problem with that either - if it doesn't impair their ability to perform their job, it's fine with me. And contrary to popular opinion, marijuana can have a vastly different effect on you depending on your built up tolerance and daily usage levels (it doesn't just turn one into a giggling beavis/butthead type). To a heavy user, it can become similar to having a cigarette. To achieve any significant, noticeable mental effect will take consumption of large quantities in a concentrated period.
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