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Old 05-07-2008   #32 (permalink)
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Default Re: Public Acceptance of Evolution

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Originally Posted by Rasczak View Post
I believe that the people interviewed in the documentry, especially the Darwinists like Dawkins, were all saying exactly what was on their mind and that the interviews were fairly done and edited. I haven't seen Algore's documentry, and Loose change wasn't compelling due to the lack of qualified subjects and balance. Expelled interviewed people on both sides of the issue and people at the top of their field were given their say. There's no real comparison between Expelled and Loose Change.
The "darwinists" were on several accounts outraged by the way their comments were interpreted. From Richard Dawkins' review of the film:
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Toward the end of his interview with me, Stein asked whether I could think of any circumstances whatsoever under which intelligent design might have occurred. It's the kind of challenge I relish, and I set myself the task of imagining the most plausible scenario I could. I wanted to give ID its best shot, however poor that best shot might be... So, bending over backwards to accommodate the IDiots... I constructed a science fiction scenario. Like Michael Ruse (as I surmise) I still hadn't rumbled Stein, and I was charitable enough to think he was an honestly stupid man, sincerely seeking enlightenment from a scientist. I patiently explained to him that life could conceivably have been seeded on Earth by an alien intelligence from another planet (Francis Crick and Leslie Orgel suggested something similar -- semi tongue-in-cheek). The conclusion I was heading towards was that, even in the highly unlikely event that some such 'Directed Panspermia' was responsible for designing life on this planet, the alien beings would THEMSELVES have to have evolved, if not by Darwinian selection, by some equivalent 'crane' (to quote Dan Dennett). My point here was that design can never be an ULTIMATE explanation for organized complexity.... Well, you will have guessed how Mathis/Stein handled this. I won't get the exact words right (we were forbidden to bring in recording devices on pain of a $250,000 fine, chillingly announced by some unnamed Gauleiter before the film began), but Stein said something like this. "What? Richard Dawkins BELIEVES IN INTELLIGENT DESIGN." "Richard Dawkins BELIEVES IN ALIENS FROM OUTER SPACE."
I can only apologize for the huge quote, but Dawkins wasn't exactly terse about it. I've snipped it gratuitously already, and if you want the full quote it's at the link above, paragraphs 14-16.
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