Logic cannot create something out of nothing. We cannot reason our way to truth because reason must begin with something that is held to be true. We call them axioms. I can't help but notice that most of the arguments that exist in the religion/philosophy section are a result of people being unable to recognize their own assumptions as just that. We all begin with some assumptions about the world; we must. If you begin with the assumption that God exists and created the world (many do) then you will never be able to find any arguments that contradict that (duh). On the other hand, if you begin with the assumption that your senses and intellect will tell you all you need to know about the world, then you will definitely come to some very different conclusions. Of course, reasoning fallacies occur as well, but it would probably help if people were clear about their axioms.

I know, I'm dreaming. 90% of the population aren't even aware that they make any assumptions about the world, much less are they honest enough to admit what they are. Enjoy the discussions; I just had to say it.