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Old 12-07-2007   #20 (permalink)
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Default Re: Fined for speaking her mind

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Originally Posted by keith.kuslak View Post
you have seriously got to stop calling them thought police when you do not even know what the term means. At least read the first three chapters of 1984 as they are defined there. Technically she would be guilty of an act, because she said it aloud. Thought crime refers to something not spoken aloud or even acted towards. It might be a nervous tick... a passing glance... and then you just disappear in the night.

If it were thought crime, then people would be getting fined because they might have shrugged oddly when they passed a black person. Not because they spoke out against it.

I suppose if you want to use a newspeak word of which she is guilty, then use duckspeak. Not thought crime.
Jeezus, I should have gotten this out of the way earlier.

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In George Orwell's dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four the government attempts to control not only the speech and actions, but also the thoughts of its subjects, labeling disapproved thoughts with the term thoughtcrime or, in Newspeak, "crimethink".

In the book, Winston Smith, the main character, writes in his diary:

“ Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death. ”

He also makes remarks to the effect that "Thoughtcrime is the only crime that matters."

In modern media the term thoughtcrime is used to refer to crimes (allegorical or legislative) whereby the alleged "criminal" commits a crime not by action but by expressing their thoughts in some way. Real world thoughtcrimes are punishable by measures as severe as death. For example apostasy (the "crime" of changing your religion) in Saudi Arabia is punishable by death by stoning. Even in western countries where freedom of thought is considered a fundamental value, still there are cases where it is possible to incur in penalties of the law for saying or thinking something. For example, in the United Kingdom, the "crime" of blasphemy (saying something bad about Christianity) remains on the statute book.[citation needed] Similarly, prosecutions in Germany of individuals allegedly carrying out simulated pedophile acts in the multiplayer computer game Second Life could be considered thought crimes, as no actual sex offences had taken place in the real world.
I'm pretty sure in Germany, you aren't allowed to claim the holocaust didn't happen. Is that true Mrgins?

Anyway, go back to whatever dumbfuck professor filled your head with bullshit and demand your money back. You got ripped off.
Eric
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