I haven't tried gutsy yet, but will be doing so in another week or so! I'm getting a system 76 laptop!! Yay!!

As for the ubuntu being for people that just want it to work.. yeah, I kind of get that. I messed around with Linux since I was like 15 or so (23 now), and Ubuntu 6.10 was the first distro vs that more-or-less "just worked". A few issues w/ modems, but thats just par for the course. Otherwise though, everything works - printer, sound, graphics card, everything. Its amazing. And you know, theres a lot of people that don't feel the need to be messing about in their system 24/7, and who want things to 'just work' Thats me at this point, I'm not ashamed to say. I've got lots of stuff to do besides mess about with all the zillion options in slack and debian (slackware was my preferred distro before trying ubuntu)...