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Old 08-07-2007   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: Orgin of Life on Earth

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Originally Posted by dvvel View Post
heard that bacteria called cyanobacteria produced oxygen billion of years ago
Pretty much, yes.

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species orignated on earth through the process of terraforming..
It's more to do with evolution than anything else.

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if that was true, did earth not have oxygen in its atmosphere before the origination of life..
Yes, earth did have oxygen. However, the oxygen was not present in its elemental form. The oxygen was combined with other elements in various compounds, and it was the action of the cyanobacteria which was able to convert oxygen into its pure form. This then gave rise to evolution of more complex organisms able to use oxygen for respiration.

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It's pretty clear today that life doesn't need oxygen to exist as even on earth there are lifeforms using nitrogen or methane instead.
You forgot another main one: carbon dioxide. If sunlight and water are also present, that's what allows photosynthesis in plants to occur.

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The proper origin of life on earth is still pretty unclear till this day and there are several theories including cosmic impacts bringing micro organisms.
Look up the Miller-Urey experiment for another theory as to how the first prokaryotic cells developed on earth.

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Hmm, the origin of life on earth... it's very simple really. We were made by God. The one and only faithful God. His whereabouts are unknown but I believe he rests outside the universe watching everyone, everywhere, all the time.
You show me where God is and I may just begin to adapt to your ideas. "He's outside of this universe," is not an answer.

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Hmm, the origin of life on earth... it's very simple really. We were made by God. The one and only faithful God. His whereabouts are unknown but I believe he rests outside the universe watching everyone, everywhere, all the time.

Our source is NOT "human evolution," it is God. Proof in in the Holy Bible. Just read the first chapter in the book of Genesis to see for yourself.
Awww, shucks! It's that book again that has absolutely no verifiable origin... guess that easily defeats real empirical scientific evidence then.

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What is most amusing about areas of science such as this, is that the devotees of these theories don't realize that while the imagination has no bounds that we are aware of, the brain's ability to comprehend does. The result of this is that theories become regarded as facts, instead of what they truly are...daydreams.
Complete nonsense.

Many of the original authors of the Bible - whoever they may be - are the daydreamers. Scientific theories are verifiable through empirical experiments. That's how science works. When an observation is made, a theory is formulated to scientifically explain that theory. Later, if more observations are made which fit with the theory, that theory is strengthened. Conversely, if new observations are made which show the theory to be incorrect, that theory is scrapped and scientists go back to formulate yet another theory to explain everything.

It appears, more than anything, that you do not understand simple scientific priniciples. If that is the case, you are not in a position to declare any science incorrect.

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Of course this manner of thinking does lead us to some actual advancements, but not nearly so much as the imagination promises.
Your point? Correlation does not prove causation.

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But then, a true devotee doesn't mind this, because each failure is viewed as a step forward, which moves us along on a path that we do not know the destination of.
Exactly. You're talking as though that's a bad thing; it's not.

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Therefore, they do not realize that they are traveling in circles, because the mission field is so vast and indescript that it is difficult to know even where we are now.
BS. Try again.

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Science can be a very worthwhile endeavor, but too often it is a terrible waste of minds.
Leaving those great minds to sit around and pray in church all day (and fiddle with the choir boys) would be a far greater waste of intelligence.

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This wouldn't be so bad, if they could see past the trees and perceive the forrest that they are lost in.
Oh, great. Richard Feynmann's son is posting on this forum. No wonder you got kicked off Newegg.
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