I'd like to add that after some discussion, compiledkernel and I have buried the hatchett in regard to all this mess. There are issues from long ago at Ubuntuforums that obviosly still push my buttons and it was very wrong of me to drag them up in this forum.

I offer my apologies to the entire community for doing so and hope that compiledkernel changes his mind about resigning.

om shanti
narayan