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Originally Posted by Charbucks  Okay, I didn't realize you were redefining faith. I agree - a true scientist does need to be open. But the reason they take so long to come around to forming an opinion is because people rely on them to be "right", and the shit would hit the fan if scientists starting declaring as fact things that have not been thoroughly investigated. |
I think you have a rosy view of scientists. Pick up a book on the history of relativity theory, and how physicists behaved as it was introduced and explored. They took so long to come around because they didn't want to give up their preconceptions, didn't want to be 'wrong' (ego), couldn't believe the universe could behave that way compared to their rigid mechanical view of it, etc. They were stuck in their beliefs.
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Why don't we stop redefining words that already have meanings, and say that scientists grok things?
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I would say using "faith" as I (and Alan Watts) do is more true to the original meanings and uses of the word. People just became lazy in their use of the word, and pretty much forgot what faith is. Like I said, most people don't have a word for what I call faith. The word doesn't exist because the concept has largely been lost in western thought.
But they're merely words - signposts. I think it's fun to redefine them - reminds us they're arbitrary and that we're making it all up.
"Grok" to me is deep transcendental knowledge, not faith.