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Old 07-24-2007   #44 (permalink)
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Default Re: Atheist or Agnostic?

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All "facts" are beliefs if you believe them.

You're pretending that "facts" are absolute, but they are not. They are perceptions. People once believed the "fact" that the world was flat. For them it was fact. (Just using an common example).

How many of your "facts" may be like this?
You can believe a fact. In fact, it's part of the definition of belief, so saying that facts are beliefs if you believe them is just meaningless word games.
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Originally Posted by OED
Belief: Mental acceptance of a proposition, statement, or fact, as true, on the ground of authority or evidence; assent of the mind to a statement, or to the truth of a fact beyond observation, on the testimony of another, or to a fact or truth on the evidence of consciousness.
I think you're using the word "belief" to mean "faith". Once again, according to the OED, "Belief was the earlier word for what is now commonly called faith."
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