Well of course you could find very good and reasonable arguments individualism and against my claim that they want people to think alike. But I was not saying that about them as much as about the basic human natures within their framework as offered.

You see I think it would be awesome for them to find a healthy and thriving success in their instilling their values in people. I am only addressing what they have not, and in my opinion, about human natures pitfalls in all religion.

You said: Perhaps I would not want to expand it at all, just as a platform of activism.

Now you are pointing toward many of the good things that have come through every religion, the activisms that helped humanity to put a blunt point on it and not to be confused with the destructive activisms.

I am not trying to debunk this as a religion. Hell I even give my acceptance to many smart atheists in conversation because there are right where they need to be, I think there is a lot to learn there for the right person.

What I have a problem in showing often is that any religion that sells itself to people through claiming to be better as their way of being different than another in it’s basic design flawed.

We need first examine our needs for them to remain more at the helm of our minds than at the stern of a potentially oppressive political system that Will arise within it if left to the course of all other religions.

I am a minister. Not a debunker, I seek the freedom of will and the harmony of us all and even if I do it in my own odd ways.

I think I would agree with everything you wrote.

I am not saying that their ideas are flawed but the context of their ideas are when combined with what we know of human nature and as compared to the freedom of an individual human nature. We have to deal with our complexities and multiple individuals that need each other to survive and thrive in love and within the slight contradiction to the need of our individually to express our hearts. Our political nature is where we are in conflict.

You see the individual and the social body have and innate contradiction in needs. There are always contradictions to deal with; otherwise life would be a breeze and we would all love each other without political recourse. LOL