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Originally Posted by suoko  I live in Italy and according to many posts I could say that ITALY SHOULD NOT BE PART of EU.
1- we are not a laic country. We are ruled by the church
2- we are racist. The vatican said that gays should be considered pedophiles and we have racist parties. (this apply to many EU countries)
3- we do not have a stable government.
4- we still have fascist parties (this apply to many EU countries) 
5- In the south (not only there however) of Italy illiteracy is very common
6- people are TV and VIPs addicted just like many 3rd world people
7- we have secular monopolies
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I was worried about Italy, but Italy is one earlier members of the EU and can not just be expelled. Not sure all of your statements are true though. The mere existence of racist parties does not make the government rascist. How many seats do they have? Belgium has the 'Vlaams Blok too. (11% last elections according wikipedia)
I am not sure what to do about that, i guess just discussion and education. Finding out the reasons of these views.
Also note EU is a set of countries, membership should not be based on 'deserving it', it has to be practical as wel.
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Originally Posted by lastsurvivor You shouldnt directly accept what you heard of media and broadcasting televisions.Turkey have published very satisfactory documents,from Ottoman Archives, that prove "So called genocide" is a media propaganda which Allies put on Ottomans in 1st WorldWar.That is a huge subject to talk about but my advise to you is that dont accept media ideas that quickly without researching information. |
People should not directly believe a lot of things. The problem is that they can not research every subject. People tend to believe what the people they trust tell them. This issue is a rather big point, though, and un-knowledgable people discussing will doing the Yes/No thing.(This goes for a lot of things) Either side could have their conviction out of some kind of pride/reliance on what they where thought. Hence, i think historians should discuss it based on the facts and not what was thought to them, perhaps they can figure out what happened.(perhaps they should look for new evidence too.) They should make sure the spirit of this is colaborative, though.
Noting all of this, i am not sure if Turkey should enter. I think extensive deals can be made about various things, though. Maybe focus should start with that, why should it be a boolean value whether a country is part of the EU. That is not how it grew before it was actually called the EU.
The EU has already grown a lot, what should the EU be? I do not even feel i know what it is now. (goddamn internet, making me know that i do not know all that stuff
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