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Old 07-13-2007   #121 (permalink)
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Default Re: Socialism in the United States

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Originally Posted by LordFu View Post
It's fact that governments have committed atrocities. It's opinion that throughout all of history they have been the biggest danger. Maybe I even agree, though I would qualify it, but it's still opinion.
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Your strawmen are tiresome. Where did I advocate disbanding government?
OK. My bad, you didn't advocate disbanding it. It wasn't an intentional strawman, just me being a bit careless.
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"The suggestions of the Trilateral report, "The Crisis of Democracy," are just about the most cultured and genteel proposals for socialist dictatorship I've ever seen. Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao are illiterate boors by comparison.

The great international bankers and industrialists do not favor competition. What they favor is the formation of cartels and monopolies to control world finance, markets, and natural resources. The Communists, led by the Soviet Union, have basically identical goals on the level of world power. What is more natural than for the Western monopolists to divvy up these spheres with the Communist monopolists of the East? There is a great deal more to it than that, but I think I've made my point." - Gary Allen, February 27, 1980
OK. I see where you're going with this. I don't want that crap either, but I think it's possible to have a somewhat socialistic society without having totalitarianism. I'm not sure I've been clear, but I don't favor pure socialism. I also don't favor pure capitalism because I think that's anarchy and "right of might." We need to be somewhere in between. In fact, we are in between, but I think we need to shift a bit toward socialism.
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