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Old 07-13-2007   #27 (permalink)
rjwood
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Default Re: Hot 4 Hil - Hillary needs to make this her new campaign song

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Ah, okay, that makes sense then, sorry for the misunderstanding.
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I guess I just feel that if women really do want to be treated as equals, then they shouldn't demand different treatment. I'm in a pretty male-dominated field, but I have never felt that by being female I am somehow being discriminated against. The various organizations like WiSE (Women in Science and Engineering) seem to give off the message that if women are to succeed, then they must need some kind of mentoring and peer support. That just seems to be perpetuating the viewpoint that women are somehow inferior. Similarly, when employers are forced to higher a certain proportion of women, that doesn't seem right to me. The person who is best suited to the job should get the job. I don't want to succeed in this world simply because there are measures to ensure that women can succeed; I want to succeed because I am competent.
I would love to agree with everything you have written here. I think most of the mentoring systems in business' are there for easy intro into the mostly male dominated environment. Unfortunately, most men, even at my age cannot seperate people from sexual objects. It's a fact, no matter what some want to say. My 18 year old daughter cannot walk across the street to the store without cat calls coming from cars passing by, and many of them are by men my age and older - and she has been enduring this since she was 14 years old. I'm sur you know what I'm talking about.

You will succeed based on your performance, unfortunately, part of the performance you unfairly have to give is getting through this necessary fact that you are discriminated against. So you have to endure the fact that the playing field has to be manipulated for you to compete fairly. BTW-the playing field has to be manipulated back to being an equal playing field because it has been groomed for mens use only over time.

All that said, it is better today in many cases than it was when I was younger. So things are moving in the proper direction.
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