You quoted yourself and said it was me. Please fix this.
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The logical extreme of your position is that the Bible is false, since people misunderstand and misapply it all the time. Jesus, on the other hand, did not blame Scripture when people misunderstood it, but the people themselves.
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Originally Posted by Bnonn  Ignoring the strange idea that the church at Corinth didn't have the word of God (what else did Paul teach them), can I please just confirm that you are saying that the actions of believers as a result of some doctrine determine that doctrine's truth, rather than the propositional content of the doctrine itself? You seem to have agreed that this is the case, and also with my reductio ad absurdum that this entails the falsehood of Scripture, but I'm sure you can't really believe this, so I am confused as to what your position actually is. |
The doctrine will overwhelmingly determine the witness. A good tree will overwhelmingly yield good fruit.
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Originally Posted by Bnonn As for TULIP, I know what it is—it is the "0.5 point TULIP" which confuses me. Do you mean you believe half a point? Or half of TULIP? Neither seems to make sense, since one cannot half belief a doctrine, or belief two and a half doctrines. |
I only believe half of the P in TULIP -Perseverance of the saints
I believe Jesus will not lose any that are his. All that are his will either persevere or God will take them out so that their spirit may be saved. Perseverance of the saints starts off on the wrong foot assuming
only some are called.