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Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington state
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| Re: Sex workers and the free market and my reply:
Sex workers and the free market Jesus, LOL, you are a mad man.
You are blurring the lines between political thinking and religious thinking with this questioning and making them one thing. Which affirms for me that those are only systemic concepts of perception that our society exists through religiously. I think you can't help but think dangerously in relation to people’s comfort zones. You devil.
I guess that is one of the reasons that you are interesting to read as a philosopher. But this is a can of worms man. At least, it is if we are interested in really examining it for ourselves. I know I am, but I am probably just a sicko or something. I guess we will find out about the others around here.
Here is my opinion, and labeled as so, for those wishing to forgo it.
There are no politics or economics in the end, only the human condition in existence and as divided and labeled with the modes and paths to understanding and or non-understanding which ever the choice of each of us. This perspective outlines for me the very real OTHER purposes and actions of our severely limiting our exposures to the truth of our human condition, which I find is the norm for many people, in this kind of subject matter.
Most people think they have a reasonable opinion about this topic and line of questioning; very few have much in the way of realistic information to base it on because they don’t want to have a relationship with the natures of that information.
This is a dangerous line of thought man. This may be an opportunity that is more than some want. I LOVE IT!
I will not be able to help but take notice as people respond to this post of yours and reveal how much of their energy is put forth of their own wills and their chosen realities offered by our societies medias to maintain their ignorance and safety zones that are insulted by the more realistic scenarios of truths that are possible.
This is going to open up a very gruesome set of realities that we all participate in, if I can help it, and if my wife will let me have the time to do the writing. LOL. People think they are far removed from the crimes on humanity in this subject. We are not, and thin veils of will, choices of media, and most importantly our contrived systems of belief only hide the proofs we willing turn away from automatically.
Anyway, you have the clout here to get away with this without appearing a rabble-rouser, good job on the clout. As is obvious, I am still trying to learn about the value of clout and how to get and maintain it amongst the people that trade it on the “free and open market” that is valued by our religious thought and regulated in ways that I will get into. There is an oxymoronic statement “a free and open market.”
A market is a valuation and process of goods, their owners and their non-owners relatively. People choose to not be too aware of the second because it finds a large number of us as worthless in the end and that goes against the comforts of believing our morals as realistic. The bum on the corner two blocks from my house remind me of this all the time, he is a smart man, in some ways anyway. The market is called free in spite of the very focused and capable greed that maintains its qualities, manipulations, and authorizations of those.
The market as is, assigns the processes of ability to our wills as disseminating powers over one another’s abilities for providing each our sustenances' in our fights and trials of survival.
The word “free” would connotate a lack of human cost, constraint, or widespread, systematic and devious manipulation. None of which is realistic in our case as a lacking.
Freedom in our markets is a fairytale that we tell ourselves to hide our crimes against each other from our immediate thoughts and I base that on our own stated morals as a society.
There is a study that proves that nine out of ten people will pull a lever that kills, murders one person in order to save five others.
The same study proves that the same people nine out of ten times will not push to their death the same victim to save the five.
My point in saying this is that just because our market, and morals authorizing it seem rational to our socialized moral dynamics as perceived, doesn’t mean that they are. We are fooled by our needs to be good, into being blind to where we are not good.
Gee, who in their right mind would use love for the purpose of evil? That is another topic… but I think it is someone not in there right mind and we elevate those, through our system, to our governers.
This study shows a large hole in our ability to create our morals appropriately; our morals are far more subject to manipulation by focused reasoning wills that understand our weaknesses, and as so, use them against our greater welfare, and simply for profit. Am I blaming just the rich? Hell no! I am blaming us! More discomfort, but whose fault is that?
We are more open to manipulation than we would like to think, and those that believe we are doing the best we can in our free market, are selling us all down the river just to maintain that belief. I would venture to guesse that many also do it to make a mint through skimming slight bits of welfare off of the masses that amount to huge losses for us all and for the large and growing number of people that are doing it very well. and the rest are just comfortable in their pathetic natures, rather than striving for something...else.
Throw in the natures of prostitution, and then the social slavery aspect of what I have been saying here gains a lot of focus, even if still most don’t want to look at things this way it remains with or without them.
An example of circumstance:
Last weak, the 4rth of July, when we were all watching and lighting fireworks, and just two blocks from my house, a 12-year-old girl was taken right in front of her family and friends.
A van pulled up next to her on the street, the door opened, and a couple of men grabbed her and sped off.
They got half the plate number, we all participate in amber alert for the next 24 hours or so, and we didn’t get her back.
As we that were more detached from the family and friends speculated on the girls fate, I found that most people believed that she will be dead soon. I then speculated further that this was because they needed to believe that a sicko, that is conveniently unlike themselves in their religiosity, did this.
I believe and to the increased discomfort of my piers, that this girl is more likely off to a slavery ring because their were two of them. This is part of a very large free market that has only one difference from ours, our legal and local authorizations. The dynamics are no different and our pasts prove this. How? Because it used to be part of this present market in still is part of the world market. The girl has value and people are willing to trade it. We don’t want to think our markets trade all of us but they do. That’s why ad executives make so much, they creatively valuate and manipulate out minds as properties that are for sale. Only we don’t see the large profits of our contrived worth’s.
Now here is where we come the “we are doing the best we can speeches”. I would re-label them as the, “we are doing the least that we can”, speeches and by the influence of many things, but for the most part, by our own attitudes of hopelessness and lack of faith in ourselves.
I would point to this response here, a similar opinion that elaborates further, and to keep from typing it over and again. It describes my opinion on some of our beliefs as a society and my loose interpretation of how we arrive at them.
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anyway hope this is interesting to you
Last edited by Iammyaspectofus : 07-07-2007 at 08:44 PM.
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