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Old 07-06-2007   #15 (permalink)
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Default Re: Presidential Pardons / Commutions

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Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg View Post
A complete pardon hasn't been ruled out. Bush may still do this..
I could be wrong, but I think either policy or tradition dictates the recipient of a pardon has to carry out his sentence before being eligible for a pardon. In any case, there has not been a pardon.



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What you mean to say is no one was *convicted* of a crime outside of the perjury and obstruction of justice charge.

Outing a CIA agent is a serious crime. However, it was difficult to investigate because the administration systematically obstructed justice. And Libby was convicted of that.

You are trying to invoking Clinton's defense? It doesn't really work in this case.
Valerie Plame doesn't meet the requirements of a "covert agent" or whatever. The law doesn't apply. Her neighbors all knew she worked at the CIA. No crime was committed when her name was given to Novak.




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How so? By telling the truth and cooperating with the investigation?
Fitzgerald knew before he ever questioned Libby who actually gave Plame's name to Novak. He knew it was Armitage for three years. There have been no charges filed against Armitage. Why? Because he committed no crime. This investigation was nothing more than a perjury trap. Libby didn't remember who he first talked to about what differently than a reporter. Had he answered the question "correctly" it would have changed nothing. Remember - while Fitz was questioning Libby in front of a grand jury, he already knew who leaked the name.



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I think if Clinton did this, you'd be singing a different tune.
Clinton did commit perjury - he said something he knew wasn't true under oath. He was aquitted. You're comparing apples to bowling balls.
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