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Old 07-05-2007   #78 (permalink)
Barney
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Originally Posted by TheWiseMan View Post
TO japser
Let me see you fiqure this one out

Science says that the universe is less than say 15 billion years
myabe 30 billion whatever it doesn't matter


However old it is what was there before our universe
or before that

im trying to make you understand that time had a begginning

What happenned 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000years ago
get my drift


Time is unique to our universe
Therefore it only makes sense if time doesn't exist somewhere else and that from a eternal universe became our universe bounded by time


If time is infinite
What caused the big bang
Why 15 billion years ago why not 100000000000000 billion years ago


TIme is unigue to our universe

With time you need a beginning



How do you explain the beggining
How do you explain a finite time scale
ie what happened before the big bang or whatever
WAs the singularity just sitting there for 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000years
and what about the second before that and that and that?
Sir, this is both a scientific and philosophical question.

The scientific side is handled by science. Detailed models taking into account all constants and variables in our universe. God is not a model, so we can't shift things onto God just because we don't know which theory is correct.

I haven't got a problem with someone publishing a paper fully explaining how "god" can fit into this, but I find it unlikely. God should not be a god-of-the-gaps. My personal opinion is that expanding the idea of God to things scientific is both and insult to science and to faith. This applies to the christian god, islamic, etc.
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