thank you compiledkernel.

that has given me a fuller understanding of what is going on.at ubuntu(now i will have to join automatix site and get the other side of the story)..

but as you say freedom of speech..it is what i have been hinting at if one side can bag automatix then surely the supporters can defend it..

so if the baging is stopped and any queries asked are politly redirected to the automatix site.. would this not be better than all the who har..

so instead of dont use it it breaks things,it becomes please go to the automatix web forum for support here is the link,,

and give infractions for both sides breeching this this war will die out sooner than later..

kind regards
Goofy