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Old 06-29-2007   #28 (permalink)
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Default Re: Animal Rights

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Originally Posted by Jasper84 View Post
Are we talking about genes as a way of identifying rights? That sounds like a crazy idea to think that is reasonable.
Not as an absolute way of determining rights (if it was, it would be justification for racism), but seeing it this way helps somewhat. For example, one could ask 'why should I respect a cat more than a bug?' and the answer would be 'the cat is genetically more similar to you, so it is your nature to respect it more'.

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Genes being similar as causing why we respect things is not crazy, but what mechanism would you say causes that? Beyond recognizing mom/dad? I could not find any good reason why respect of other creatures would lie in evolution.
Are you kidding? Preserving creatures that are more similar to yourself is how evolution works. What if, for instance, all of the human race was wiped off the face of the Earth. Would you, biologically speaking, prefer the Earth to be repopulated by apes, or by rats? The obvious answer would be apes, because you, as a human, want the future to have the closest thing to yourself in it. Objectively, it's just as 'good' for the Earth to be populated by rats, lizards, fish, bacteria... or even nothing at all. But living things don't see the world objectively. The very thing that makes a thing living is its subjective desire to preserve that which is closest to itself.

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(as i said in #10) That was considered off topic, btw, maybe we should talk about what is ethical with animals rather then how evolution somehow affected that
It's true that we are getting somewhat off topic here, but the original question was 'if some animals get to have rights, how do we determine which?' There is no objective answer to this question! If you claim that all animals should be equally respected, then we can't live our lives at all: even collecting fruits and vegetables involves the suffering of some animals.
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