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Originally Posted by lakersforce  Killing him does not seem to stop the next guy from doing it. And taking away his freedom when he only have a limited livespan left, seems like enough punishment to me. Then he will be forced to use the rest of his life to reflect on the crime he has done. And that is actually the true punishment. |
Life in jail is better than life in most townships. Some people get out of jail, steel a car, ussually shoot or stab the person on the inside, and go straight back.
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Again, how about to try and make people reflect over their crimes? Killing them solves zilch.
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see above. you are doing them a favor
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Are you suggestioning we provide jobs for 25 million people by making them kill others?
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Nope - but they are already killing each other: HIV. anyway, it was proposed that we get rid of social and economic poverty, ie get them jobs so that they can get themselves a better living and stop stealing
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Sounds pretty doomsday like to me. You could prevent this catastrophe simply by using a condom.
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Been trying - They just don't use them. 50% of people at University ARE ALREADY HIV positive. Think about the economics: Half the people that the country's economy trains will give a zero return. In order for the economics to work, the state needs you to work, create jobs and pay taxes so that the state can fund the next generation of students. Anti retro virals only help a very small percentage of people that are 100% committed to taking the meds.
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You seriously think that gang problems come out of nothing?
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No - getting them jobs would solve the situation. Where do you propose we find jobs for 25 million people where about half you train won't be able to come to work in 2 to 10 years time because of HIV. Then you are not allowed to fire them as the law does not permit this dew to the already high jobless situation. Firing someone due to sickness is discrimination. now you need to train some one again and pay 2 people for one job.
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Sounds pretty doomsday like to me.
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It's much worse than you think.
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Yes, I know, I did not actually say much myself, except commenting on your post. But I simply can not see any logic in your arguments.
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Did this help? don't mind posing if you still don't follow or if I'm still not clear.
[PS: this is getting off topic, but i suppose it's still relevant.]