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Old 06-19-2007   #3 (permalink)
Jasper84
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Default Re: My way of thinking.

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Originally Posted by chadwick359
these probabilities are able do be described in a finite way, but are infinite in number.
In math, that complicates things. Does it really do anything in your argument?

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Originally Posted by chadwick359
In this model, the actual probability that describes a universe is impossible to compute until the reality has ended, at which time, the point becomes mute.
That does not make sense. Who says the universe computes anything? Compute in real-world time? Probabilities of different evolution or as the whole universe including whole evolutions in time. Anyway, i do not think talking about the universe having to 'compute things' makes sense.

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Originally Posted by chadwick359
your decision, and therefore your will, is both described by, and describes the probability
You mean that any calculated probability requires a pre-existing probability. There is the "principle of indifference" that says that probability should be uniform in that case, but that is not a consistent principle for probabilities over infinite sets.
One could argue that this causes consciousness, because only consciousnesses can choose initial probabilities, and those can influence what the outgoing probabilities are. Hmm, are there properties about consciousness that follow from this? Well, just like the uniform universe argument, it seems to follow that all consciousness are part of a single consciousness, as. Their separation is an illusion/approximation. Assuming it is an approximation, can there be thought of a way 'how much' each approximately separate consciousness has influence over the 'initial probability'?
There is things to think about here, i guess. I do not think is what you were thinking about, but it seems to require knowledge of probability on real functions not having a uniform distribution.

IMO your view does require the world to be non-deterministic, it has to have probabilities that are not inventions of man.

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