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Old 05-18-2007   #43 (permalink)
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Default Re: What is faith?

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Originally Posted by bvc
The logical extreme of your position is that the Bible is false, since people misunderstand and misapply it all the time. Jesus, on the other hand, did not blame Scripture when people misunderstood it, but the people themselves.
Ignoring the strange idea that the church at Corinth didn't have the word of God (what else did Paul teach them), can I please just confirm that you are saying that the actions of believers as a result of some doctrine determine that doctrine's truth, rather than the propositional content of the doctrine itself? You seem to have agreed that this is the case, and also with my reductio ad absurdum that this entails the falsehood of Scripture, but I'm sure you can't really believe this, so I am confused as to what your position actually is.

As for TULIP, I know what it is—it is the "0.5 point TULIP" which confuses me. Do you mean you believe half a point? Or half of TULIP? Neither seems to make sense, since one cannot half belief a doctrine, or belief two and a half doctrines.

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Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg
I don't see how you have exclusive rights to an assumption. If you manage to convince anyone of this, you should license it to them
Uniformity is not an assumption in the Christian worldview; it is a fact justified by deduction from the first principle of that worldview (that the Bible is the word of God). In a scientific worldview, on the other hand, there is no first principle which justifies uniformity; thus it is assumed without warrant.
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