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Old 05-29-2007   #58 (permalink)
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Default Re: What are your axioms?

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Things that cannot be proven wrong need not be true.(have you put enough thought in that part of your post?) For some mathematical things it is actually proven that they cannot be proven false and also not cannot be proven true. These are axioms, precisely because they cannot be proven. (sometimes axioms can be proven by taking other axioms though, said something in this vain earlier.)
Perhaps, but that is precisely why I have limited myself to three (3) axioms. These can neither be refuted nor denied (or else all this is moot).

And please take heed of the differences between the Mathematical and Philosophical defintions of "axiom".

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I agree, but it is not like people who think absolute certainty is true are ever going to convince me .
Ad they call me dogmatic....

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Eh, your confidence is great, but please keep an open mind about the possibility you are wrong. The discussion is not a contest either, so, at some point of the disagreement everything has been said; Then agree to disagree, so that some more consideration, may clarify.
Life itself is a contest. If it should come to that, I will agree that you are wrong, and dismiss you out of hand. </arrogance>
In case it wasn't apparent, sarcasm is yet another free service I offer.

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