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Originally Posted by Bnonn  I have already answered this objection by pointing out that words have meaning, and that the validity of reasoning can be evaluated using reasoning itself. |
This is circular reasoning.
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Originally Posted by Bnonn I have already clearly and adequately explained that the foundation of the foundation is the foundation. |
For you the tortoise is standing on it's own back. This still leaves you with a tortoise floating in mid air.
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Originally Posted by Bnonn I am not sure if you are being serious or not; it's hard to take you seriously, but I have heard more insane and obviously self-refuting things affirmed in the past, so I suppose I should give you the benefit of the doubt. |
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Bnonn If that is the case, then it is certainly true that the fool says in his heart, "there is no God" (Ps 14:1) |
Who was the loony that wrote that?
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Originally Posted by Bnonn whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool (Pr 28:26) |
To me, it seems like you've assumed your own mind is reliable though.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be having a debate at all ... rather you would simply be chewing on a rubber shoe.
Honestly though, I appreciate the thought you've put into your views.
Also, the conversation interests me, because I feel almost like I'm looking in the mirror at my own views from years ago ... when I was a fundamentalist Christian. Believe it or not, I actually understand what you are saying, I just have different views.
From your perspective, your view makes perfect sense, and I probably sound like I'm just speaking gibberish. Possibly you see my views as a reflection of your former views.
It's like two aliens meeting and trying to have a conversation, each speaking a different language.
I'm not sure we can really have a conversation, much less debate anything, without speaking past one another.