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Old 05-16-2007   #18 (permalink)
Chroniker
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Default Re: Why should you decide for others?

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Originally Posted by Trab View Post
eh. chorinker, I actually very much inturperate that scripture differently, I dont think its my daily job to judge my brothern. God is to judge them (and yes, in heaven the saints may as well, however as I said, we are not perfect yet.) and we are to show acceptance, compassion, love, and mercy. People are help responisible for there actions, sure, but it is my job to "turn the other cheek" and to forgive.
Trab, we are closing the distance between us. I may be wrong in this but when we, as Christians, judge a brother or sister we are not condeming or carrying out a sentencing. The only thing we are doing is pointing out where the other is wrong and help in correction. That is provided the one in the wrong is willing to listen. This goes for me as well. If I am wrong here someone please correct me.
MT 18:15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’[b] 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
18 “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19 “Again I say[c] to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”
Yes, we are to show compassion, love, mercy, forgiveness and to accept that we cannot change others. We can only plant seeds and let the Lord change the hearts of others.
MT 18:21 Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?”
22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. 23 Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. 26 The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 27 Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
28 “But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ 29 So his fellow servant fell down at his feet[d] and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’[e] 30 And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. 31 So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. 32 Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33 Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ 34 And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
35 “So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.”[f]
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Originally Posted by Trab View Post
Government is an establishment created by man, and is subject to man's imperfection. in fact, I don't believe God mean for us to be "governed" by other men, but alas, we choose to, and so we must follow the rules of we layed down.
Here we are in complete agreement. And if I'm not mistaken, Nimrod established the first kingdom and built the Tower of Babel and, well, you can see how well that went.
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