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Originally Posted by PaulFHX Hmmm.. are we getting confused about what we mean by the word rationality?
I have spoken to very many sincerely religious people on this very topic and literally all have underlined the fact that you simply must have FAITH in order to be able to comfortably overcome the very many rationally-based obstacles impeding the acceptance of the existence of God. |
You may have spoken to many religious people, but you have not evidently spoken to any Christians (or, at least, certainly not any mature or educated ones). Of what rationally-based obstacles do you speak? I know of none.
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However, nobody is saying that science comes up with 100% truth. The best we can expect is a theory that, based on our knowledge at the time, comes closest to predicting what will actually happen under various sets of future circumstances.
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You would be surprised how many people say that science comes up with 100% truth. Or, you would be surprised how many people acknowledge that science is incapable of proving
anything, but then still reject Christianity on the strength of scientific claims. Since science is, in fact, all about being wrong, I lend little credence to it when it contradicts the Bible. Science is an operational tool, not a system of knowledge-acquisition.
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Originally Posted by utabintarbo I'm sorry, I did not realize that the christians had redefined the word to suit their puposes. But it does not surprise me. |
Don't be silly. The term
faith has been redefined by both anti-intellectual religious types and anti-religious intellectual types; not by Christians. Christians have been using it for a very long time; it is only within the past half a century or so that it has started to mean an irrational, unthinking, often emotional belief, which may or may not be against evidence to the contrary.
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- Existence exists
- The Law of Identity - things are what they are, or A is A
- Consciousness is the faculty that perceives that which exists.
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I have no problems with these, but they are not scientific. The scientific method relies on a great many more unjustified assumptions than those.