@lakersforce:

Not better no. Sick of crime. I'm 20 years old, I've been robbed 3 times, my mother beaten unconscious with a pistol, Held up at gun point once, and one of our cars have been stolen.

Now - I'm not for killing car thieves, but killing rapest and murders yeah.


@yaaarrrgg

I actually found that funny!

Guys - things should be taken in perspective. If some one steals something from you, walk away - he'll get whats coming to him sooner or later. If some one starts choking your family members one by one or starts raping your wife in front of your kids(happens atleast a couple of times a year in SA), don't turn the other cheek kill the SOB, or at least incapacitate him.

@koshatnik

Agreed. BUT:

"financial and sociological poverty" "substance dependence or lack of attainable social goals"

The above people will think twice when they do rob a house whether to just tie up it's owners or to kill the men, rape the women and the kill the women as well. This year alone, i have heard of people being killed for there cell phones. People getting shot on sight in a robbery because it's easier to kill than to confront. Dead victims don't testify in court nor do the phone the police or put up a fight. The criminals that fall in to the above category are desperate yes and will steel yes, but they can still weigh out there options. They have no respect for my life but they still want to live - thats why they steel in the first place. By threatening there lives by the very fact that they threaten yours i believe is a deterrent.

This group can have one of a thousand derivatives. For arguments sake, mentally ill people that are violent have a different set of reference frames of what they consider normal and acceptable. Thus - hanging a crazy man I think is harsh and I agree with you that they should not be condemned to death.

Agreed - White people in the 50ties Started Apartheid and affectively put the country 20 years behind first world countries. They denied Maths and Physics to black highschool students and now we have 25 million very poor black people in the country. This is what cause the "financial and sociological poverty, substance dependence or lack of attainable social goals." you speak of.

Depends on whats on top of the cliff. (I don't really follow the above)

On the topic of rapests:

2 types:

1) Mentally ill - I have already said what i have to say.

2) Predators and FCkers that take advantage of women. Date rape drugs ect. If you drug a girl and rape her, or rape a baby(yes a baby) to get rid of the HIV that you got because of sex with too many people in the first place then I'll pull the trigger myself. this a personal thing. You do not rape.

I disagree. It provides form of revenge to a victims family should they want it. It provides some form of deterrent.

I agree with all three above posters that the death penalty is not a nice thing to have in country, and that it is not the best way to fight crime, solving the social poverty bit is the solution, but as a Christian I can justify killing in certain circumstances and the fact that crime is rampant in my country, 20 years back this was not the case, the death penalty does serve as a deterrent to some form, people that are ten years older than myself can testify to this(i was seven when the death penalty was ablished in my country so I don't really have useful info from that time period ).

Anyway - hope some questions where answered

Cheers,

Rudolf