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Originally Posted by slayerboy  I have refused to vote...simple as that.
My vote no longer counts in this country. For all intents and purposes, I am borderline Middle class (edging on Poor at any second), White, Non-religious, Pro-Choice, single, deeply in debt but have a pretty good credit score because I have a deep fear of what may happen, take responsibility for 100% of my actions, and am "disabled" (Moebius Syndrome coupled with hearing loss and poor vision). I've always fallen through the cracks, never thought the government owed me anything all the while, and have worked my way through life pretty well.
They don't care about me.
The day when the politicians wear clothing without pockets is the day I start voting again. Of course, my theory, and it's starting to be a popular theory, is that the President for the last 20 years or so has just been a puppet. Maybe even longer than that.
Google Free Masons and you'll find a lot of info. Ever wonder how the design for the dollar bill was come up, check that search out.... |
I agree with you up to the point where you start talking about Free Masons
But the problem isn't the politicians, it's the whole system. The politicians need money from big corporations, and corporations simply exist to make money above all else regardless of the effects. The documentary
The Corporation has a really good explanation of why the current form of the corporation is completely unsustainable. Enron is a good example of this.
There's always the possibility that Free Masons are running everything, but then there's always the possibility that
Reptilian Humanoids are secretly ruling the planet, or that
we are simply living in a dream world, Neo. You can't prove the existence of anything doesn't exist, and you can't disprove it even if it doesn't. The Free Masons might have had a lot of power in the past and even now but I don't see why a Mason coming up with the design for the dollar bill means anything.
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Originally Posted by yaaarrrgg I agree! What blows my mind is that an election is (or should be) a job interview, but immediately the public starts discriminating based on age, sex, color, religion, etc, and asking irrelevant questions. |
It's not the public. The public has no say in the elections. The media tells the public what's happening, and the media is controlled by all the corporations. Watch
Manufacturing Consent, Noam Chomsky and the Media for more on that if you don't believe me.
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Originally Posted by lakersforce I agree with what you say about what should be the grounds for electing the president, rjwood. But we all know that it is not the case.
What a presidential race actually is about is who has the biggest wallet and the most support of big buisnesses, which George W. Bush is a good example of. And that is not a very good thing for the people, because what then will be the presidents greatest concerns is to please those who supports him finacially. And that would not be the people in general, but ara very small amount of the people: the elite who has the money.
All you americans (generally) think you have the greatest country in the world, because you are the richest measured by GNP. Don't get me wrong, I love america, but money is not everything. It is how you distribute your money. And again, don't get me wrong, I'm not a pink commie. For example take a look at Sweden. Their GNP per citizen is not the highest in the world, but pretty damn close. In Sweden they pay a huge tax ammount, about 50% on all earnings (less tax the less you earn, more tax the more you earn). What Sweden get in exchange for this is the worlds lowest infant child death rate, the lowest poverty rate (way, way lower than the US) and public health care and free education. If you are ill you don't have to worry about if you have the money for the doctor. And you don't have worry about if you have the money to attend to college. All these things combined give a much better standard of living.
It has always concerned me the way american politicians and the american people are afraid of trusting their own and their goverments ability to take sufficient care in a responsibel manner of its citizens. It is almost as watching someone with a borderline personality: either it is (rampage) laissez-faire capitalism or else it is communism. It is all black and white. There is no in-between. Everybody with just a little social insight knows that laissez-faire is not a very good choice.
I come from Denmark, a country simmilar to Sweden in the terms I described, and I consider health care and free education as a human right. Im proud of living in a country that offers me those choices.
I find it (sort of) humorous to watch your presidential tv-smear-spots. The republicans always hint in their commercials that public health-care is a bad thing, without really giving any reasons (which of course would be impossible in a 30-sec spot), but basicly playing on the old fear of communism sterotypes.
I don't live in a communist or a socialist country. I live in a democratic country! (Well, sort of. It is actually a monarchy). And don't get me wrong, not everything as green and wonderful here. There is something rotten in the state of Denmark!  We do have religious freedom, but we also have a state-sponsored religion (protestantism...hey, that's the same religion George practices!). But generally I think I am better of here. Unless of course I would be insanely rich. Then the US would be the place for me, not this state-controlled communist-infested nest I am living in.
Phew, seems like I perhaps got a bid of track there. Another important thing about the presidential candidate would be his ability to portray himself favorably in the media, which the JFK-Nixon debate was a good example of.
That was my five cents. Hope I have not offended anybody (too much at least). |
I agree with most of what you said there, Sweden's a good example to many countries, that's how the economy
should be run. The fact that they have, technically, a monarchy isn't that important in the big picture at all although it should still be changed.
lakersforce, I don't see how something can be "infested" by Communists, where does this negative image come from? (that's a rhetorical question, I know where
)
Communism may be a completely misguided system of government, but real Marxism champions equality and freedom, and although Communism may be a stupid solution, it's not an evil one. Communism looks brilliant on paper but sadly doesn't work too well in practice - because nobody's perfect. It is not, as many people have come to think, based on the principle of ruling the country with an iron fist and putting millions of people in work camps for speaking out.