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lakersforce · 05-15-2007

I agree with what you say about what should be the grounds for electing the president, rjwood. But we all know that it is not the case.
What a presidential race actually is about is who has the biggest wallet and the most support of big buisnesses, which George W. Bush is a good example of. And that is not a very good thing for the people, because what then will be the presidents greatest concerns is to please those who supports him finacially. And that would not be the people in general, but ara very small amount of the people: the elite who has the money.
All you americans (generally) think you have the greatest country in the world, because you are the richest measured by GNP. Don't get me wrong, I love america, but money is not everything. It is how you distribute your money. And again, don't get me wrong, I'm not a pink commie. For example take a look at Sweden. Their GNP per citizen is not the highest in the world, but pretty damn close. In Sweden they pay a huge tax ammount, about 50% on all earnings (less tax the less you earn, more tax the more you earn). What Sweden get in exchange for this is the worlds lowest infant child death rate, the lowest poverty rate (way, way lower than the US) and public health care and free education. If you are ill you don't have to worry about if you have the money for the doctor. And you don't have worry about if you have the money to attend to college. All these things combined give a much better standard of living.
It has always concerned me the way american politicians and the american people are afraid of trusting their own and their goverments ability to take sufficient care in a responsibel manner of its citizens. It is almost as watching someone with a borderline personality: either it is (rampage) laissez-faire capitalism or else it is communism. It is all black and white. There is no in-between. Everybody with just a little social insight knows that laissez-faire is not a very good choice.
I come from Denmark, a country simmilar to Sweden in the terms I described, and I consider health care and free education as a human right. Im proud of living in a country that offers me those choices.
I find it (sort of) humorous to watch your presidential tv-smear-spots. The republicans always hint in their commercials that public health-care is a bad thing, without really giving any reasons (which of course would be impossible in a 30-sec spot), but basicly playing on the old fear of communism sterotypes.
I don't live in a communist or a socialist country. I live in a democratic country! (Well, sort of. It is actually a monarchy). And don't get me wrong, not everything as green and wonderful here. There is something rotten in the state of Denmark!

We do have religious freedom, but we also have a state-sponsored religion (protestantism...hey, that's the same religion George practices!). But generally I think I am better of here. Unless of course I would be insanely rich. Then the US would be the place for me, not this state-controlled communist-infested nest I am living in.

Phew, seems like I perhaps got a bid of track there. Another important thing about the presidential candidate would be his ability to portray himself favorably in the media, which the JFK-Nixon debate was a good example of.

That was my five cents. Hope I have not offended anybody (too much at least).

05-15-2007	#9 (permalink)
lakersforce Drank to much Mountain Dew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Odense, dk Posts: 391	Re: Proper reasoning for proper voting for the proper canidates I agree with what you say about what should be the grounds for electing the president, rjwood. But we all know that it is not the case. What a presidential race actually is about is who has the biggest wallet and the most support of big buisnesses, which George W. Bush is a good example of. And that is not a very good thing for the people, because what then will be the presidents greatest concerns is to please those who supports him finacially. And that would not be the people in general, but ara very small amount of the people: the elite who has the money. All you americans (generally) think you have the greatest country in the world, because you are the richest measured by GNP. Don't get me wrong, I love america, but money is not everything. It is how you distribute your money. And again, don't get me wrong, I'm not a pink commie. For example take a look at Sweden. Their GNP per citizen is not the highest in the world, but pretty damn close. In Sweden they pay a huge tax ammount, about 50% on all earnings (less tax the less you earn, more tax the more you earn). What Sweden get in exchange for this is the worlds lowest infant child death rate, the lowest poverty rate (way, way lower than the US) and public health care and free education. If you are ill you don't have to worry about if you have the money for the doctor. And you don't have worry about if you have the money to attend to college. All these things combined give a much better standard of living. It has always concerned me the way american politicians and the american people are afraid of trusting their own and their goverments ability to take sufficient care in a responsibel manner of its citizens. It is almost as watching someone with a borderline personality: either it is (rampage) laissez-faire capitalism or else it is communism. It is all black and white. There is no in-between. Everybody with just a little social insight knows that laissez-faire is not a very good choice. I come from Denmark, a country simmilar to Sweden in the terms I described, and I consider health care and free education as a human right. Im proud of living in a country that offers me those choices. I find it (sort of) humorous to watch your presidential tv-smear-spots. The republicans always hint in their commercials that public health-care is a bad thing, without really giving any reasons (which of course would be impossible in a 30-sec spot), but basicly playing on the old fear of communism sterotypes. I don't live in a communist or a socialist country. I live in a democratic country! (Well, sort of. It is actually a monarchy). And don't get me wrong, not everything as green and wonderful here. There is something rotten in the state of Denmark! We do have religious freedom, but we also have a state-sponsored religion (protestantism...hey, that's the same religion George practices!). But generally I think I am better of here. Unless of course I would be insanely rich. Then the US would be the place for me, not this state-controlled communist-infested nest I am living in. Phew, seems like I perhaps got a bid of track there. Another important thing about the presidential candidate would be his ability to portray himself favorably in the media, which the JFK-Nixon debate was a good example of. That was my five cents. Hope I have not offended anybody (too much at least). Last edited by lakersforce : 05-15-2007 at 07:18 AM. Reason: I forgot to hit the priview button, so I had to do a little grammar.