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Jay's Cheerleader · 02-27-2006

There are a few things below. Do you know what REALLY happened?

Who hit the Pentagon?

Was it really a Boeing 757, American Airlines 77?

The Pentagon burning before the collapse - can you see an airplane?

Why did the World Trade Center collapse?

The towers were originally constructed to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707, and the enormeous force of an hurricane at 140 mph, The suspicious grey explosion-clouds right below the black smoke caused by burning kerosene.

The towers collapsed into themselves the way we know it from buildings being demolished by means of explosives - and they always told us this is high-tech, precision-work, and you need engineers to calculate the exact places where the explosives are being placed! There also have been reports of fireman actually reaching the level of the fire and planning how to put it out - they were not in panic and didn't think the building could collapse - so it's unlikely there really was the enourmously big and hot fire that caused the towers to collapse in the official version. Reports of explosions after the impact of the planes have also been officially dismissed. The official version says heat caused steel beams to melt in the heat of burning kerosene. There has been much debate if and under which circumstances kerosene may burn hot enough to melt steel - but: the second plane did not hit the tower directly, like the first one, but at the edge, causing the fuel to evaporate in a huge fireball outside of the WTC! And everybody agrees that a normal fire could not bring down a structure like the World Trade Center. Conveniently, the steel scrap from the towers has not been properly investigated, but has been sold to steel-companies in India, China, Malaysia and South Korea.
You may see it only again when you buy an imported car ...

Strange Flight Routes

The supposed flight routes of the 4 flights leave questions open. Why did the planes take such detours? And what happened after the transponder signals were lost? What the flights have in common is that they take very strange routes and all those routes have this strange sharp turns. They also have in common that transponder, radar and radio contact where lost. And the transcripts of the communication with the controllers show after the planes reappeared on radar (but without transponder signal) that the controllers are not really sure which plane they have on radar and radio. They just assume it's the flights they have previously lost. So what could have happend?
The planes may have landed anywhere after disappearing from radar (for example a secret CIA landing strip), while another plane or unmanned 'drone' took it's place by entering the airspace controlled by radar (which would perfectly explain those sharp turns, only it are not turns, but one plane leaving and another plane entering). As the transponders are off, air traffic control assumes the re-appeared green dot on the radar is the lost airplane. Fake radio transmissions add to that impression. The remote-controlled planes/drones crash, leaving no evidence behind, neither wreckage nor bodies. This is not a far-fetched idiot conspiracy theory, but astoundingly similar to OPERATION NORTHWOODS

[b]Strange Coincidences[b]

There are a lot of strange coincidences in this flights - missing people on passenger lists, supposed suicide hijackers reported still alive, destroyed black-boxes and voice recorders, why is everything under cover? Every commercial aircraft carries two black-boxes - the flight and voice-recorder. These are as close to indestructible as possible - and after a crash, they are recovered and used to find the exact reason for the accident. Only one voice-recoder is known to be recovered, the one from flight UA93 which crashed in Pennsylvania - but the exact contents are being kept secret by the FBI. Why is it being kept secret when there is nothing to hide? When it contains evidence of the passengers of the flight taking over the terrorists which supposedly lead to the crash, what is the secret?

3 theories:
1. the plane has been shot down by an F-16 (this was authorized by President Bush) and the government wants to hide that fact and keep up the story of the 'hero flight'
2. a bomb exploded in the plane (the terrorists may have had bombs according to some of the phone calls)
3. there was no plane / a different plane (drone? missile/bomb?)

Incomplete passenger lists
The passenger lists of the 4 flights do not match with the announced number of victims, and there are no Arab names on the list - especially not the names of the so-called hijackers. It is still unclear how they could be so quickly identified (their DNA-samples could not be identified) after 9/11. One reported phone call from flight 11 named the seat numbers of 4 hijackers, while the FBI reported 5 hijackers afterwards on different seat-numbers (BBC)

The found passport
Although the plane was totally destroyed and nothing else could be recovered, we are supposed to believe that that a passport of Mohamed Atta is practically the only thing that survived the crash into the World Trade Center.

And he reportedly used a passport from a fictional country, Conch Republic, to board the plane! Missing wreckage and bodies
Four crashes on one day - and all the planes have 'disintegrated' as well as the bodies.This is probably the first time an airplane crashed and there was nothing left - no wreckage, no black-boxes, no bodies. And it happened 4 times in a single day! The victims could be only identified by DNA-samples, and approximately 1000 will probably never be identified. Planes have crashed into buildings before (e.g. El Al Cargo Flight No.: 1862 on 04 October 1992 in Amsterdam),and planes have been destroyed by bombs - (e.g. Pan American Flight No.: 103 on 21 December 1988 at Lockerbie), but never before there was no evidence of what had happened.
The found passport
Although the plane was totally destroyed and nothing else could be recovered, we are supposed to believe that that a passport of Mohamed Atta is practically the only thing that survived the crash into the World Trade Center.

And he reportedly used a passport from a fictional country, Conch Republic, to board the plane!
Hijackers still alive?
U.S. authorities have identified 19 men as the suspected hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11 into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in rural Pennsylvania.

Authorities noted that the names used by the suspects may have been stolen identities.

Minimum of victims

The World Trade Center was hit when it was practically empty, and AA77 conveniently hit the Pentagon in a wing that was under construction. The planes all where anything but full of passengers. Terrorists are known for searching their targets for a maximum of victims (crowded public buildings and places, busses etc.), and not for avoiding many victims.

From a terrorist attack like that, you would expect they are aiming to do maximum damage - but on contrary, it seems everything was done to minimize the number of victims.
All four flights carried only a fracture of their capacity on passenger (but were not cancelled).
The World Trade Center was hit early in the morning instead of during the day when the number of victims could have been ten to thirty thousand instead of 2800.

Surely this genius terrorists who managed to capture four planes at almost the same time and not being intercepted are not supposed to have minimized the victims due to bad planning?

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11
92 people on board, including crew
passenger capacity: 181
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
64 people on board, including crew
passenger capacity: 200

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175
65 people on board, including crew
passenger capacity: 181
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93
45 people on board, including crew
passenger capacity: 200

Pentagon
125 people killed
more than 20.000 people work in the Pentagon

World Trade Center
approximately 2800 people killed
about 50.000 people in the World Trade Center during one day

Osama bin Laden
The official story says Osama bin Laden was responsible for the acts of terrorism, and what followed was a war against the Taliban in Afghanistan, supposedly giving shelter to Osama bin Laden, and supposedly with the goal to get bin Laden, "dead or alive". But why does the FBI not know about it?

True, he is on the list of the FBI most wanted, but he is wanted for:

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, BIN LADEN IS A SUSPECT IN OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

Does that sound like there is reasonable evidence for him being the one responsible for the largest terroristic act ever committed? Obviously, the FBI is less sure about him being the one than President Bush who felt a war was justified. Or does he conceal evidence even from the FBI?

The alleged terrorists on this list have been indicted by sitting Federal Grand Juries in various jurisdictions in the United States for the crimes reflected on their wanted posters. Evidence was gathered and presented to the Grand Juries, which led to their being charged. The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice. Future indictments may be handed down as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.

In other words, there is no evidence!

But this was not a reason to not go and bomb Afghanistan.

02-27-2006	#20 (permalink)
Jay's Cheerleader Interested participant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 19	There are a few things below. Do you know what REALLY happened? Who hit the Pentagon? Was it really a Boeing 757, American Airlines 77? The Pentagon burning before the collapse - can you see an airplane? Why did the World Trade Center collapse? The towers were originally constructed to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707, and the enormeous force of an hurricane at 140 mph, The suspicious grey explosion-clouds right below the black smoke caused by burning kerosene. The towers collapsed into themselves the way we know it from buildings being demolished by means of explosives - and they always told us this is high-tech, precision-work, and you need engineers to calculate the exact places where the explosives are being placed! There also have been reports of fireman actually reaching the level of the fire and planning how to put it out - they were not in panic and didn't think the building could collapse - so it's unlikely there really was the enourmously big and hot fire that caused the towers to collapse in the official version. Reports of explosions after the impact of the planes have also been officially dismissed. The official version says heat caused steel beams to melt in the heat of burning kerosene. There has been much debate if and under which circumstances kerosene may burn hot enough to melt steel - but: the second plane did not hit the tower directly, like the first one, but at the edge, causing the fuel to evaporate in a huge fireball outside of the WTC! And everybody agrees that a normal fire could not bring down a structure like the World Trade Center. Conveniently, the steel scrap from the towers has not been properly investigated, but has been sold to steel-companies in India, China, Malaysia and South Korea. You may see it only again when you buy an imported car ... Strange Flight Routes The supposed flight routes of the 4 flights leave questions open. Why did the planes take such detours? And what happened after the transponder signals were lost? What the flights have in common is that they take very strange routes and all those routes have this strange sharp turns. They also have in common that transponder, radar and radio contact where lost. And the transcripts of the communication with the controllers show after the planes reappeared on radar (but without transponder signal) that the controllers are not really sure which plane they have on radar and radio. They just assume it's the flights they have previously lost. So what could have happend? The planes may have landed anywhere after disappearing from radar (for example a secret CIA landing strip), while another plane or unmanned 'drone' took it's place by entering the airspace controlled by radar (which would perfectly explain those sharp turns, only it are not turns, but one plane leaving and another plane entering). As the transponders are off, air traffic control assumes the re-appeared green dot on the radar is the lost airplane. Fake radio transmissions add to that impression. The remote-controlled planes/drones crash, leaving no evidence behind, neither wreckage nor bodies. This is not a far-fetched idiot conspiracy theory, but astoundingly similar to OPERATION NORTHWOODS [b]Strange Coincidences[b] There are a lot of strange coincidences in this flights - missing people on passenger lists, supposed suicide hijackers reported still alive, destroyed black-boxes and voice recorders, why is everything under cover? Every commercial aircraft carries two black-boxes - the flight and voice-recorder. These are as close to indestructible as possible - and after a crash, they are recovered and used to find the exact reason for the accident. Only one voice-recoder is known to be recovered, the one from flight UA93 which crashed in Pennsylvania - but the exact contents are being kept secret by the FBI. Why is it being kept secret when there is nothing to hide? When it contains evidence of the passengers of the flight taking over the terrorists which supposedly lead to the crash, what is the secret? 3 theories: 1. the plane has been shot down by an F-16 (this was authorized by President Bush) and the government wants to hide that fact and keep up the story of the 'hero flight' 2. a bomb exploded in the plane (the terrorists may have had bombs according to some of the phone calls) 3. there was no plane / a different plane (drone? missile/bomb?) Incomplete passenger lists The passenger lists of the 4 flights do not match with the announced number of victims, and there are no Arab names on the list - especially not the names of the so-called hijackers. It is still unclear how they could be so quickly identified (their DNA-samples could not be identified) after 9/11. One reported phone call from flight 11 named the seat numbers of 4 hijackers, while the FBI reported 5 hijackers afterwards on different seat-numbers (BBC) The found passport Although the plane was totally destroyed and nothing else could be recovered, we are supposed to believe that that a passport of Mohamed Atta is practically the only thing that survived the crash into the World Trade Center. And he reportedly used a passport from a fictional country, Conch Republic, to board the plane! Missing wreckage and bodies Four crashes on one day - and all the planes have 'disintegrated' as well as the bodies.This is probably the first time an airplane crashed and there was nothing left - no wreckage, no black-boxes, no bodies. And it happened 4 times in a single day! The victims could be only identified by DNA-samples, and approximately 1000 will probably never be identified. Planes have crashed into buildings before (e.g. El Al Cargo Flight No.: 1862 on 04 October 1992 in Amsterdam),and planes have been destroyed by bombs - (e.g. Pan American Flight No.: 103 on 21 December 1988 at Lockerbie), but never before there was no evidence of what had happened. The found passport Although the plane was totally destroyed and nothing else could be recovered, we are supposed to believe that that a passport of Mohamed Atta is practically the only thing that survived the crash into the World Trade Center. And he reportedly used a passport from a fictional country, Conch Republic, to board the plane! Hijackers still alive? U.S. authorities have identified 19 men as the suspected hijackers aboard the four airliners that crashed on September 11 into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in rural Pennsylvania. Authorities noted that the names used by the suspects may have been stolen identities. Minimum of victims The World Trade Center was hit when it was practically empty, and AA77 conveniently hit the Pentagon in a wing that was under construction. The planes all where anything but full of passengers. Terrorists are known for searching their targets for a maximum of victims (crowded public buildings and places, busses etc.), and not for avoiding many victims. From a terrorist attack like that, you would expect they are aiming to do maximum damage - but on contrary, it seems everything was done to minimize the number of victims. All four flights carried only a fracture of their capacity on passenger (but were not cancelled). The World Trade Center was hit early in the morning instead of during the day when the number of victims could have been ten to thirty thousand instead of 2800. Surely this genius terrorists who managed to capture four planes at almost the same time and not being intercepted are not supposed to have minimized the victims due to bad planning? AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11 92 people on board, including crew passenger capacity: 181 AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77 64 people on board, including crew passenger capacity: 200 UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 65 people on board, including crew passenger capacity: 181 UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93 45 people on board, including crew passenger capacity: 200 Pentagon 125 people killed more than 20.000 people work in the Pentagon World Trade Center approximately 2800 people killed about 50.000 people in the World Trade Center during one day Osama bin Laden The official story says Osama bin Laden was responsible for the acts of terrorism, and what followed was a war against the Taliban in Afghanistan, supposedly giving shelter to Osama bin Laden, and supposedly with the goal to get bin Laden, "dead or alive". But why does the FBI not know about it? True, he is on the list of the FBI most wanted, but he is wanted for: OSAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, BIN LADEN IS A SUSPECT IN OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. Does that sound like there is reasonable evidence for him being the one responsible for the largest terroristic act ever committed? Obviously, the FBI is less sure about him being the one than President Bush who felt a war was justified. Or does he conceal evidence even from the FBI? The alleged terrorists on this list have been indicted by sitting Federal Grand Juries in various jurisdictions in the United States for the crimes reflected on their wanted posters. Evidence was gathered and presented to the Grand Juries, which led to their being charged. The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice. Future indictments may be handed down as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. In other words, there is no evidence! But this was not a reason to not go and bomb Afghanistan.
	AND DON'T LET ANYONE EVER MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU DON'T DESERVE WHAT YOU WANT