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Old 05-24-2007   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: strictness of logic from these axioms

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Originally Posted by Jasper84 View Post
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I do not think i can give a set of axioms i will find satisfying for longer then this moment, right now. What i still miss is axioms of what is considered "a good thing" and a "bad thing", basically, what values morals are based on.
My axiom my morals are based on:
-Could not find a good definition of want. :-/, basically it is rather arbitrary, and based on a beings instincts, culture, i guess.
-Define good as the collective of what conscious creatures want, weighed by their "level of consciousness".
-Axiom: I want is a weight of getting "what i want" and increasing good.
Not that "level of consciousness" is rather vague too :-/, need it to deal with animals, of course.
The concept of "Ethical axioms" are really a denial of the concept of axiom, in that ethics are derived from a proper metaphysics and epistemology. Therefore, axioms must be metaphysical.

An analogy....Think of a house. Axioms are the foundation, epistemology is the first floor. One does not get to ethics until we are in the upstairs bedroom (so to speak). Axioms are in the basement, but the upstairs bedroom would not exist without them.
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